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Member Since: 07 Jun 2007
Location: Newry
Posts: 48
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The implementation of a Land Rover hybrid that I would like is based on the Tesla Battery Electric Vehicle.
That is each axle comprising an electric motor driving the pair of wheels via a differential.
In the Land Rover the battery pack would be reduced to half the size used by Tesla and a Generator installed as the Prime Mover.
Result engine always running at most efficient speed, battery pack load caps. Ultimate Automatic Transmission.
This setup is has been used in many High Powered Railway Locomotives (English Electric Deltic). D3 HSE Diesel Auto 2005 Zambezi Silver.
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9th Dec 2016 12:57 am |
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fade2grey
Member Since: 06 Sep 2008
Location: Reading
Posts: 304
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I'd love a discovery hybrid, but think that the Vauxhall ampera model is quite good - the engine is used only a a generator for the electric system and hence is a little tiny thing. Up side is no range limit. 56 HSE
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9th Dec 2016 7:21 am |
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Gareth
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Member Since: 07 Dec 2004
Location: Bramhall
Posts: 26775
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The Ampera is a good looking car. Pretty quick too I believe.
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9th Dec 2016 9:01 am |
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mark the spark
Member Since: 22 Jun 2011
Location: southampton
Posts: 2521
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the discovery Deltic
i like the sound of that MY05 SE D3 Manual my first LR what a car
MY10 HSE D4 auto
MY14 XXV more buttons than the spaceshuttle
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9th Dec 2016 9:08 am |
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crews control
Member Since: 18 Mar 2007
Location: Dorset
Posts: 5011
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Short wheelbase? 2005 D3 HSE
2011 D4 Landmark
2016 D4 HSE Lux
2017 Ford Tourneo VR46
Club Waitomo
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9th Dec 2016 9:35 am |
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muddywheels4wd
Member Since: 16 Dec 2010
Location: East Riding of Yorkshire
Posts: 1681
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I would of loved a LR PHEV but sadly I got fed up of waiting and issues with quality/price/dealers in recent years so I bought a Mitsubishi Outlander
When I told my dealer I was leaving the fold they offered me a 2 year old RRS Hybrid for £64k with a 1 mile electric range or advised waiting for a RRS PHEV next year which will have approx 20 miles range and start around £80k+
The Outlander isn't a LR (no Sherlock ) but I'm getting 20 miles on battery in winter with all the heated toys switched on and over 30 miles when it's warmer for up to £1 electric - worst trip in October was 44 mpg over 135 miles - did same trip last weekend and used save button for first time to use battery sparingly and achieved 47.8 mpg - actual average since I got it is 101.2 mpg which even taking cost of electric into account is around 70 mpg equivalent 8)
I saved £8500 off new price and will get £6400 tax rebate off my company tax as well as BIK only £550 pa - true it's probably not great off road but it's cost me about £25k new with a 5 year warranty, 8 years battery and 3 years servicing - I'd like to think I will be back in a LR next time but honestly - I can't see it at the moment - unless it's a Series 2 Wanted a Series 2 LR since childhood but previously owned MY16 Disco Sport HSE TD4 Auto, MY13 RR Sport Black Edition TDV6 Auto, MY10 RR Sport HSE TDV6 Auto, 2007 Freelander 1 Freestyle TD4 Soft Top, 2009 Freelander 2 GS TD4 Auto, 2007 Freelander 2 GS TD4, 2004 Disco 2 Metropolis Auto, 2002 Disco 2 GS, 2000 Freelander 1 SE TD4 SW
Still hoping for a S2 one day!
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9th Dec 2016 9:51 am |
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euangibson
Member Since: 24 Dec 2010
Location: Borders
Posts: 11027
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While it's probably the future direction,this technology is fairly "new" and I'll wait a few years I think.
Battery improvements and innovations seem to be moving very quickly,and it's only going to get better.
Looked at an e-Golf for swmbo last year,but the boot space was seriously compromised by the battery pack underneath....still work to be done on hybrid technology,but it's definitely going in the right direction.... "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool,than to speak out and remove all doubt" ?.....what rubbish...
Locking rear E-diff
RLD spare wheel protector & sump guard
Extended roof rails
Series 111 mudflaps
Black side tubes,grill and vents
Timed climate remote
Hids4u interior lights
D4 Firenze my2012 HSE
D3 Java 2005 SE manual (sold,sadly,thanks for the memories)
1966 '88 Series 2a....still starts in the morning better than I do...
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9th Dec 2016 10:38 am |
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muddywheels4wd
Member Since: 16 Dec 2010
Location: East Riding of Yorkshire
Posts: 1681
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A member on the other side traded his RRS in for a Lexus Hybrid and is getting 35 mpg - I got 30 in the SDV6 so the hybrid on it's own doesn't float my boat
The "plug in" bit is where the saving is - I spend all week on battery and use no petrol at all - weekends I exceed battery range and it sips some petrol, I pay no road tax and don't have to worry about DPF
The Jag iPace is very tempting - 0-60 4 secs and 300 mile range on electric - I may be tempted back sort of - if they can get their heads out of their and remember what customer service used to mean
http://www.jaguar.co.uk/jaguar-range/i-pac...0woddMIIJA Wanted a Series 2 LR since childhood but previously owned MY16 Disco Sport HSE TD4 Auto, MY13 RR Sport Black Edition TDV6 Auto, MY10 RR Sport HSE TDV6 Auto, 2007 Freelander 1 Freestyle TD4 Soft Top, 2009 Freelander 2 GS TD4 Auto, 2007 Freelander 2 GS TD4, 2004 Disco 2 Metropolis Auto, 2002 Disco 2 GS, 2000 Freelander 1 SE TD4 SW
Still hoping for a S2 one day!
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9th Dec 2016 10:54 am |
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professorpool
Member Since: 19 Mar 2012
Location: Woking
Posts: 3213
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I have had two Lexus RX's. The second was a hybrid. An amazing car on the road. To be honest far better than the disco (on the road) D3 07 SE - still going strong
D3 07 HSE - gone to car heaven
FL1 - gone to Romania
D3 05 HSE - gone to a divorce diet
D1 V8 manual - gone but not forgotten
RR Classic - gone to car heaven
Jeeps, Lexus, X-trails... Too many to name..
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9th Dec 2016 1:42 pm |
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muddywheels4wd
Member Since: 16 Dec 2010
Location: East Riding of Yorkshire
Posts: 1681
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I have heard Lexus Customer Service is incredible but until they embrace "Plug in" technology I'm reluctant to buy one Wanted a Series 2 LR since childhood but previously owned MY16 Disco Sport HSE TD4 Auto, MY13 RR Sport Black Edition TDV6 Auto, MY10 RR Sport HSE TDV6 Auto, 2007 Freelander 1 Freestyle TD4 Soft Top, 2009 Freelander 2 GS TD4 Auto, 2007 Freelander 2 GS TD4, 2004 Disco 2 Metropolis Auto, 2002 Disco 2 GS, 2000 Freelander 1 SE TD4 SW
Still hoping for a S2 one day!
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9th Dec 2016 2:34 pm |
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professorpool
Member Since: 19 Mar 2012
Location: Woking
Posts: 3213
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My middle son has just started a 3 year apprenticeship with them D3 07 SE - still going strong
D3 07 HSE - gone to car heaven
FL1 - gone to Romania
D3 05 HSE - gone to a divorce diet
D1 V8 manual - gone but not forgotten
RR Classic - gone to car heaven
Jeeps, Lexus, X-trails... Too many to name..
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9th Dec 2016 2:45 pm |
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muddywheels4wd
Member Since: 16 Dec 2010
Location: East Riding of Yorkshire
Posts: 1681
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8) Wanted a Series 2 LR since childhood but previously owned MY16 Disco Sport HSE TD4 Auto, MY13 RR Sport Black Edition TDV6 Auto, MY10 RR Sport HSE TDV6 Auto, 2007 Freelander 1 Freestyle TD4 Soft Top, 2009 Freelander 2 GS TD4 Auto, 2007 Freelander 2 GS TD4, 2004 Disco 2 Metropolis Auto, 2002 Disco 2 GS, 2000 Freelander 1 SE TD4 SW
Still hoping for a S2 one day!
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9th Dec 2016 4:57 pm |
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RDR
Member Since: 24 Mar 2013
Location: Derbyshire
Posts: 2260
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Really would love a discovery hybrid.
I'm looking at ordering a xc90 twin engine I've got a two day extended test drive booked for 22nd December quite looking forward to it MY06 S - Gone but not forgotten
MY12 HSE - Gone
MY16 HSE Luxury - Sold
MY20 D5 HSE - Sold
Current RR L460 PHEV
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9th Dec 2016 5:52 pm |
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J77
Member Since: 03 Mar 2008
Location: Fife
Posts: 6270
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My name is down for an I-pace, size might be an issue for me though. 23.5MY Defender 90 X-Dynamic SE D250 MHEV Pangea Green
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9th Dec 2016 11:21 pm |
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