Member Since: 22 Dec 2009
Location: Maidstone
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Red Merle wrote:
you do all realise that fashion is the tool that used to sell new handbags, shoes and frocks to females that already have all the handbags, shoes and frocks that they could ever possibly need?
It appears to be having have the same, credit card bashing, affect on the "ladies" on here too!
Have you seen what men will pay for named clothes?
Then theres all the grooming products, mate at work is growing his hair and beard with help from his hairdresser, yes really he believes he needs help to grow them!
13th Dec 2016 3:46 pm
Red Merle
Member Since: 30 Aug 2014
Location: Liskeard
Posts: 7441
Can't they see what's happening to them? Probably not until it's to late! 2011 - 2015: 3 x FL2
2015 - 2017: 2 x D4
2017 to date: FFRR SDV8
2023 to date: 2 x FL2 as โsecondโ cars ๐
2021 to date: Hinckley built โ14 Triumph Trophy 1200
2022 to date: Hinckley built โ14 Triumph Trophy 1200 & sidecar!
(One of only two known to exist in the world!)
13th Dec 2016 3:56 pm
Red Merle
Member Since: 30 Aug 2014
Location: Liskeard
Posts: 7441
The Dundonian wrote:
The D4 looks old and dated compared to the D5. This time next year it will be a faded memory apart from a few die hards.
Mind you, with the D5 being styled after a 1990's Saab estate, it won't be long until that's on the same style heap as the D4. I'm sure it'll have it's 12 months in the sun until Audi or BMW come up with the 2018 "simply must have" I think I know just the people to help out here...
2011 - 2015: 3 x FL2
2015 - 2017: 2 x D4
2017 to date: FFRR SDV8
2023 to date: 2 x FL2 as โsecondโ cars ๐
2021 to date: Hinckley built โ14 Triumph Trophy 1200
2022 to date: Hinckley built โ14 Triumph Trophy 1200 & sidecar!
(One of only two known to exist in the world!)
13th Dec 2016 4:03 pm
AndrewS Tarquin of the Desert
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Hark the nay sayers.... It looks like an old Saab then in the next breath Ewww it's too modern and looks RRS FFS make your minds up
I can wait to drive past you all filling up your heavy dated uneconomical Land Rovers at the filling stations. Ill breeze past flick the V's and you wont even notice because I'll blend into all the other look alike SUV's In the Beginning there was nothing, which exploded.
13th Dec 2016 4:29 pm
Discogaz
Member Since: 17 Mar 2014
Location: Bracknell
Posts: 1399
Was it a magpie or jackdaw that was attracted to all things new and shiny, guess LR have found their new target audience.
I prefer to use the term "Classic" to describe the D3/4 shape. It's a hairy chested, musclebound beast of a car whereas the new D5 is more pretty.
Took me many years to come to terms with the D3 as a long standing D2 owner but I can't see this being my cuppa as by the time I can afford one, I'll be scaling down anyway.
13th Dec 2016 4:37 pm
petersw
Member Since: 17 Nov 2012
Location: Norfolk
Posts: 1135
To my mind the Landrover that is a classic is the Defender. Not sure any Discovery deserves that title.Peter
13th Dec 2016 4:41 pm
SN
Member Since: 03 Jan 2006
Location: Romiley
Posts: 13710
DSL wrote:
To me it's just another jelly mould
Derek a long time ago Hyundai tried that strap line with their Stellar when Ford replaced the Cortina with the Sierra...
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We'd all be still driving squared up boxes now if they'd won that argument.... errr... hang on... Steve N | 21MY Defender | 08MY Discovery 3 (history) | 06MY Discovery 3 (ancient history)
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13th Dec 2016 4:41 pm
Russell
Member Since: 23 Aug 2007
Location: Kent
Posts: 10564
petersw wrote:
Tempted by the Orange though Russell, have you seen it in the flesh?
Not yet but really like the look of that with the black pack MY17 D5 1st Edition Namib Orange
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13th Dec 2016 4:44 pm
LT
Member Since: 31 Dec 2005
Location: South West
Posts: 23826
IMO, the D3/4 has already stood the test of time style wise and will continue to do so. It looks dated only in that all the current crop of SUV's look broadly similar. Again IMO, I think the D5 et al will themselves become dated looking in the not too distance future.
Simply because the D3 and to a slightly lesser degree the D4 are a classic bit of design and whilst they'll now always look "older" they'll always continue to look great.
The original RRS is a classic example of this, it looked very "modern" at launch, just as the D5 does, but it's higher level of "styling" isn't current and therefore it now looks hideously dated (IMO).
With the D3, the design concept of "form follows function" very much applied. That concept has been dropped and replaced by all LR models having the "family" look.2006 D3 HSE (Original & still the best)-GONE
2010 D4 HSE (A bit bling)-GONE
2014 D4 HSE (Almost too bling)-GONE
2015 D4 HSE (A heated what?)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Written Off)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Surely the last!) PD1881 rims-GONE
2017 FFRR SDV8 Autobiography (now semi-retired)
13th Dec 2016 4:47 pm
dubbs
Member Since: 18 Apr 2012
Location: Gloucestershire
Posts: 3626
The point with the D3/D4 is that, yes it will date but the design will date well as there is far more utility in the design than there is purely fashion/style. The original D3 still looks cracking, and is aging well just like the defender - it is already being called a design classic by so many (not just those on here )
The D5 is growing on me but it isn't a design classic, it doesn't shift the bar, it doesn't bring anything ingenious or new at all to the table.
Looking at how I use my Discovery now, to move to a D5 I would be making sacrifices in the name of fashion/style alone - and that's just not worth 30k+ of my hard earned to refresh the main car. Anyone doing so at the moment is purely moving for fashion sake imho.
Maybe the D5.5 will actually bring some tech or power plant choices worth the effort?
Or maybe I'll change my mind before that happens... MY15 DIY Black Pack (Better than factory and half the price!)
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13th Dec 2016 5:00 pm
adam
Member Since: 20 Sep 2005
Location: Home and Happy
Posts: 6917
SN wrote:
DSL wrote:
To me it's just another jelly mould
Derek a long time ago Hyundai tried that strap line with their Stellar when Ford replaced the Cortina with the Sierra...
Click image to enlarge
We'd all be still driving squared up boxes now if they'd won that argument.... errr... hang on...
Member Since: 31 Dec 2005
Location: South West
Posts: 23826
Autocar Jerry McGovern interview:
Quote:
The company has changed its opinion about what a Discovery should be, right?
โTrue. Discovery 3 was probably the most design-literate version โ very product orientated. It won various design awards and had a no-nonsense, utilitarian look and feel. But it polarised opinions, especially in the US. We gave it a friendlier face and a more luxurious interior in the Discovery 4 and that sold like hot cakes.โ
Exactly what I wanted in 2006 and still want today. 2006 D3 HSE (Original & still the best)-GONE
2010 D4 HSE (A bit bling)-GONE
2014 D4 HSE (Almost too bling)-GONE
2015 D4 HSE (A heated what?)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Written Off)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Surely the last!) PD1881 rims-GONE
2017 FFRR SDV8 Autobiography (now semi-retired)
13th Dec 2016 5:33 pm
Red Merle
Member Since: 30 Aug 2014
Location: Liskeard
Posts: 7441
AndrewS wrote:
Hark the nay sayers.... It looks like an old Saab then in the next breath Ewww it's too modern and looks RRS FFS make your minds up
I'm just giving some gentle stick to those that decide it's not going to cause any offence by coming onto a Disco 3/4 forum and tell us how "dated" (yuck!) our cars happen to be 2011 - 2015: 3 x FL2
2015 - 2017: 2 x D4
2017 to date: FFRR SDV8
2023 to date: 2 x FL2 as โsecondโ cars ๐
2021 to date: Hinckley built โ14 Triumph Trophy 1200
2022 to date: Hinckley built โ14 Triumph Trophy 1200 & sidecar!
(One of only two known to exist in the world!)
13th Dec 2016 5:57 pm
RDR
Member Since: 24 Mar 2013
Location: Derbyshire
Posts: 2260
i think the D3/4 is past looking dated its so old its now retro cool Mine lives in Derbyshire or Mayfair & Canary wharf and looks the dogs doodahs in all of them.
The D5 looks good and personally i think it has a pretty menacing look from the front especially with the black pack. Rear not so good but generally i like it, could landrover have been a bit more risky in its design? definitely. its more reserved than the D3 was when it was released but times are hard and landrover are playing it safe.MY06 S - Gone but not forgotten
MY12 HSE - Gone
MY16 HSE Luxury - Sold
MY20 D5 HSE - Sold
Current RR L460 PHEV
Yup from that angle I too like the look of the D5, however, rotate the vehicle 90 degrees anti-clockwise, so you see the rear and side, the D4 gets my vote as the D5 looks grotesque from the rear IMHO.
As said before I think the designers went on holidays when they got to the c-pillars and left to rear to some artschool apprentices. "Butt ugly"LRs are a fond memory, apart from the maintenance.
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