jimbg
Member Since: 19 Apr 2013
Location: UK
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You obviously did not tell them what they wanted to hear!! 
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RDR
Member Since: 24 Mar 2013
Location: Derbyshire
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Ive bought 5x D3s and 4s in the last 10 years, 3 for me and 2 for SWHMBO but have never been asked to fill in or participate in any survey. Dealer knows I'm on the lookout to change immediately too.
Im sure LR watch this forum but as said above we form a very small representation of the market. We are by the fact we have joined this forum different from the average owner, it means we have further interest in the car and have probably purchased it for a more specific reason than most who just want 4 wheels and a badge. I think we would be severely out numbered in a top ten requiremnts pole. MY06 S - Gone but not forgotten
MY12 HSE - Gone
MY16 HSE Luxury - Sold
MY20 D5 HSE - Sold
Current RR L460 PHEV
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| 28th Feb 2017 6:05 pm |
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Discomadness
Member Since: 19 Jan 2015
Location: Caerphilly
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Yes but surely people on land rover forums particularly would be of interest as we have more of an interest than the average buyer ? It makes no sense. Jarrod
Current : D3 2007 HSE - AKA the lemon
-beanie grille
-detango with led bulbs
-club body off rebuild. TWICE.
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| 28th Feb 2017 6:19 pm |
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RRSTDV8
Member Since: 07 Apr 2014
Location: Here
Posts: 13553
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Let's face it, if LR asked half of the people on here what they want in a D5, they'd probably get the answer "just a D4 with better fuel economy"! Visiting from rrsport.co.uk
2012 RRS SDV6
2008 RRS TDV8
"When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die! You don't know who's children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they were always going to have to do from the very beginning: SIT DOWN AND TALK!"
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| 28th Feb 2017 6:20 pm |
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RDR
Member Since: 24 Mar 2013
Location: Derbyshire
Posts: 2260
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not from me don't care about economy when it comes to the primary car a D4 with more technology and either Supercharged V8 petrol or some tesla beating EV option. I can dream  MY06 S - Gone but not forgotten
MY12 HSE - Gone
MY16 HSE Luxury - Sold
MY20 D5 HSE - Sold
Current RR L460 PHEV
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| 28th Feb 2017 6:24 pm |
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jimbg
Member Since: 19 Apr 2013
Location: UK
Posts: 478
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Discomadness wrote:Yes but surely people on land rover forums particularly would be of interest as we have more of an interest than the average buyer ? It makes no sense.
If you want any chance of being asked to be involved in surveys then you probably need to get on the LR database not your dealers.
Try registering on the LR web site when asked for feedback.
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| 28th Feb 2017 6:26 pm |
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J77
Member Since: 03 Mar 2008
Location: Fife
Posts: 6270
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There is the LR Advisory board, I've been getting emails since I bought the Disco Sport, I've never logged on so don't know what it's all about. 23.5MY Defender 90 X-Dynamic SE D250 MHEV Pangea Green
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| 28th Feb 2017 7:13 pm |
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Moo
D3 Decade
Member Since: 13 Aug 2010
Location: UK
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With such bad packaging and the reduced boot size, are you sure they did use a Jack Russell in the CAD program? D4 HSE EU6 (Known as Jeeves)
New Defender L663 110 SE (known as Noddy!) Sold
Sold Volvo XC90 R-Design (known as Basil)
Sold - D4 HSE (Known as Gerty)
No longer the Old Buses original owner 
231,000 miles and counting
05 S manual owned from March 2005
D4 Face lifted
Still original injectors and turbo
V8 Front brakes
BAS Remap, Allisport Intercooler and deCat
EGRs blanked
T-Max split charge
Hanibal Expeedition rack
Prospeed ladder
Duratrac tyres
IID BT
BAS FBH control
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| 28th Feb 2017 7:18 pm |
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darrind
Member Since: 04 Jul 2008
Location: In A World of My Own!
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Perhaps someone got Sammys scaling wrong in the CAD
Must stop buying shiny toys....
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| 28th Feb 2017 7:24 pm |
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Phil B
Member Since: 12 Apr 2005
Location: Amersham, UK - gone to the country!
Posts: 93
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FFS guys, it's getting like a Brexit / Remain debate on here. I've owned a D3, now I'm buying a D5. Both great vehicles in their own right (I've driven the D5 - its terrific , and I'm not a journalist). I currently own a S1 RRS, so I'm not new to the brand or it's values. So much negativity is getting a bit old now. Java TDV6 HSE with Alpaca and a few other fancy bits
BMW C1 200 with too many options to list and the world's worst image
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| 1st Mar 2017 6:38 am |
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artschool
Member Since: 21 Aug 2016
Location: chester
Posts: 230
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i don think we are being negative. maybe concerned is a better word.
i used to love Nokia phones and at one point the company ruled the phone world with its products.
they got the design of a few models wrong with microsoft and they have vanished off the map.
this year they had just relaunched one of their classic models. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-39095127
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| 1st Mar 2017 7:13 am |
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RDR
Member Since: 24 Mar 2013
Location: Derbyshire
Posts: 2260
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It's banter just like the disco v rrs.
Glad your getting a d5 I really want one to buy one too but the negatives are preventing me (practicality) which is potentially forcing me out of the brand. if it fitted for me I would be truly over the moon and no doubt collecting one very soon but I'm not and that peeves me I've been looking forward to the D5 for 2 years as I'm quite frankly bored of the d4. It's seeing daft marketing like this that is going to spark this response on this D3/4 forum.
I'm a member of the d5 forum and I'm sure this clip will have received positive views and I for one would not invade that thread with my views and keep them on this site.
Time heals and I'm sure it will calm down but right now personally I'm a bit lost and having to test and negotiate with other brands which I really wish I didn't have to do. It's like Christmas has come and I've just found out I'm on the naughty list and not getting what I want  MY06 S - Gone but not forgotten
MY12 HSE - Gone
MY16 HSE Luxury - Sold
MY20 D5 HSE - Sold
Current RR L460 PHEV
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| 1st Mar 2017 7:21 am |
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Pollski
Member Since: 22 Jan 2011
Location: Kent
Posts: 149
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Yep. I'm in exactly the same boat. Had 2 deposits down last winter with different dealers, so desperate were we to be first in line for a new D5. Our D4 was 4 years old, had loads of things starting to go wrong and had seen some exciting 'carrots on sticks' ....
Fast foward 8 months later. No definitive roll out date, talks of production delays at the dealership, road tax increase, no spec price, no confirmed design just spy shots of something trying to look like a camo zebra and dealerships also in the dark about just about anything to do with the D5 ... so we bagged ourselves a great deal on a new Landmark. It was definitely a case of the devil we know vs. the devil we don't plus I am sure we would of been royally screwed with a P/E at the dealership.
Saying that though, got a friend who is picking up her black D5 HSE later today. I am seriously envious. However, I'm still trying to work out why ... I LOVE a new car (smell, feel etc) but is my envy based on it being a new car or because it is a D5.  Love the front end, hate the back end, love the tech, hate the boot, love the lux look interior, got mud loving kids and crazy mud/fox poo loving mutts ..... so many conflicts !!! My16 HSE Landmark - 2016 - Current. Indus Silver
My11 HSE - 2011- 2016. Stornoway Grey
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| 1st Mar 2017 10:36 am |
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dubbs
Member Since: 18 Apr 2012
Location: Gloucestershire
Posts: 3626
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Going from a D3 to a D5?! Blimey the D4 wasn't blingy OR impractical enough that you waited THIS long to change?!  MY15 DIY Black Pack (Better than factory and half the price!)
Prospeed rock/tree sliders w/steps
HSE Winter wheels
TransK9 B24
Travall Cargo Guard
Hatchbag
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| 1st Mar 2017 1:00 pm |
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dubbs
Member Since: 18 Apr 2012
Location: Gloucestershire
Posts: 3626
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Pollski wrote:Yep. I'm in exactly the same boat. Had 2 deposits down last winter with different dealers, so desperate were we to be first in line for a new D5. Our D4 was 4 years old, had loads of things starting to go wrong and had seen some exciting 'carrots on sticks' ....
Fast foward 8 months later. No definitive roll out date, talks of production delays at the dealership, road tax increase, no spec price, no confirmed design just spy shots of something trying to look like a camo zebra and dealerships also in the dark about just about anything to do with the D5 ... so we bagged ourselves a great deal on a new Landmark. It was definitely a case of the devil we know vs. the devil we don't plus I am sure we would of been royally screwed with a P/E at the dealership.
Saying that though, got a friend who is picking up her black D5 HSE later today. I am seriously envious. However, I'm still trying to work out why ... I LOVE a new car (smell, feel etc) but is my envy based on it being a new car or because it is a D5. Love the front end, hate the back end, love the tech, hate the boot, love the lux look interior, got mud loving kids and crazy mud/fox poo loving mutts ..... so many conflicts !!!
The new car is for those that want a high up SUV/Luxury car and probably tow too.... I don't see it as a vehicle for utility in the same regard.
This is where LR have been quite clever, they have split the Lux/Utility of the D4 in two - it brings the Defender up in quality to become similar to D3 luxury at least, the Luxury side of the D4 now becomes a RRS XXL.
That said once we see a few proper dirty ones and pro speed have done the dutiful I'm sure we'll all change our minds MY15 DIY Black Pack (Better than factory and half the price!)
Prospeed rock/tree sliders w/steps
HSE Winter wheels
TransK9 B24
Travall Cargo Guard
Hatchbag
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