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Re: D5 for the weekend
Bello35 wrote:
Sorry, but most in here keep saying that the D5's rear is awful but for me the front is no better...
17th Jun 2017 10:00 pm
Fitzy73
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crews control wrote:
Should never apologise for being fussy when judging good design... it's all about the details. Just a shame the idiot who designed the D5 wasn't fussy at all.
Thank you, I know the topic has been done to death, so I will try not to add to it further, but relatively small changes to the design of the D5 could have made such a difference.
As with most people on the site I am a huge Land Rover fan, and I am genuinely saddened by what I feel has been allowed to happen to the Discovery and the Discovery brand.
We have a dipstick campaign, we now need a 4x4 campaign, as when Land Rover's were still referred to as and made 4x4's they were great, now they are lumped in with other lesser SUV's they are designing to lower expectations.
Morning rant over, now to find some ibuprofen.Andy
18th Jun 2017 8:16 am
RRSTDV8
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crews control wrote:
Should never apologise for being fussy when judging good design... it's all about the details. Just a shame the idiot who designed the D5 wasn't fussy at all.
"Good design" is a subjective thing though - at least as far as aesthetics is concerned.Visiting from rrsport.co.uk
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18th Jun 2017 3:42 pm
Scottbrad
Member Since: 20 Dec 2014
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Ok, so I was given a 2.0ltr HSE for the weekend and we give it a good run out, putting about 300 miles on it across the weekend. Looks wise - I sent the photo of both the D5 and my D4 on my drive (above) to a couple of none Land Rover mates and they unanimously preferred my D4 and I do as well.
The 2.0ltr D5 drives really well, on the motorway and also on the twisty stuff, if I’m honest, probably better than D4 especially on country roads however I put this down to it feeling more like a car than a 4x4. How I described it to the dealer was, I felt like I was sitting in the D5 rather than on it like I do with the D4, and I like that tractor like seating position of the D4, it gives a great commanding view of the road ahead. Comfort wise, I think the D4 takes it, the D5 is no way an uncomfy car but I had a bit discomfort after a long motorway stint which I never do in my D4.
Interior - it is definitely a step up, it’s more Range Rover like in terms of quality and functionality moving away from the rugged interior of the D4 and its predecessors, which I personally prefer. I like the technology on the D5, for example the electronic folding rear seats, it was very handy when I was trying to load my bike into it however that brings me onto a point where I think the D5 takes a step back and that’s the load entrance, the D4 has a load entrance like a van which makes loading of bulky stuff really easy, the D5 has a more sloping aperture which makes loading a little more trickier. I think like others have said, the rear seats of the D5 are far too low, I’m 6,4” and I’d hate to do a long journey in the back.
When I dropped the car off this morning and explained my feelings to the dealer, he didn’t say it but I could tell he agreed and even after I said I wouldn’t be interested in buying one anytime soon, he still offered me a 3.0ltr to try – does this suggest they’re struggling to shift them?
Final point – I was walking out the chippy on Saturday night and walking back towards the rear of the car and I still can’t stand its backside, its dog ugly.
Thanks but no thanks Land Rover, which is a shame as there’s nothing out there at the moment that has the potential of matching the D4.
Cheers Scott.
19th Jun 2017 10:44 am
crews control
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Very well put and pretty much exactly how I feel about the car too.
I know LR are aiming for a bigger market but it's still a shame they've left their core customers behind.2005 D3 HSE 2011 D4 Landmark 2016 D4 HSE Lux
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19th Jun 2017 11:21 am
silversurfer13
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PeanutBob wrote:
That had occurred to me as well when I saw it in the flesh. Why did they have the make the front so bulbous? It reminds me of Ollie the Octopus.
To make the revised facelifts they'll give it during it's life so much easier to win votes with
19th Jun 2017 12:36 pm
J77
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At least you tried it, unlike some who say it's crap but can't back that statement up with the reason why they think it's crap because they haven't actually tried it
For me I wouldn't go back to a D4 now, I've had mine 3 months now, took a bit of adjusting but now I wouldn't change it for anything else in the range. Its handled everything my D4 handled, in some areas better.23.5MY Defender 90 X-Dynamic SE D250 MHEV Pangea Green
19th Jun 2017 3:43 pm
adam
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DSL wrote:
Yes, mouse and she does before anyone asks.
Obviously cut from the same mould as mine
19th Jun 2017 3:49 pm
LT
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I've yet to drive one, primarily because I can't get comfy in the D5. In the D3/4, there's room for me to extend my left leg between the brake pedal and the foot rest. This isn't possibly in the D5. I appreciate that's not going to be a problem for most people, but being 6ft7" it makes an enormous difference to me i might be able to "doctor" the foot rest, but it would mean cutting the carpet.
I had to collect a range cooker last Friday, no problem for the D4 :
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19th Jun 2017 4:23 pm
Fitzy73
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As one of the regular D5 moaners, I will admit I have declined a test drive.
Like LT at well over 6ft I couldn't get comfortable and to be honest, I consider it so ugly I wouldn't buy one regardless of how it drives.Andy
19th Jun 2017 5:39 pm
markate
Member Since: 17 Sep 2011
Location: England
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I'm 6ft 2 in and don't find the D5 at all uncomfortable and I'm in the fortunate position of having driven it extensively both on and off road. It is an impressive vehicle in many respects, more capable off road than a D4 due to the latest generation Terrain Response, All Terrain Progress Control, Cameras etc and it is not bad on the road, although in some situations I still prefer the D4 on road.
Would I buy one - at the moment No.
I don't like the look and it's not growing on me. Followed one the other day and both SWMBO and daughter called it 'fugly'
It's too expensive for what you get - about £10000 more for the same spec D4.
19th Jun 2017 6:09 pm
James W
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It's such a paradox reading here over and over how SWMBO says it's ugly etc... Personally I would (and will, at some stage) justify the 'unique' styling to myself but when I pointed out a D5 to my SWMBO for the first time, she was surprisingly vocal on her opinion. And she really, really doesn't have much to say on cars, ever.
So - we all understand the intended design direction, yet the ladies aren't liking it! Find that strange.D4 XS, gone, much loved, never forgotten
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19th Jun 2017 6:22 pm
110CSW
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My experience is exactly as above. I want to like the D5 and am averagely negative on it (at best but hey the Q7 is no looker so I would have to buy a Volvo - never done that before!), but SWMBO hates the look of the thing. Have declined a test drive too. In fact surprised they offered me one as they normally make no effort to offer me anything.
Sorry LR it's you first duff car for a long, long time so heads up and carry on.2014MY Discovery
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i might be able to "doctor" the foot rest, but it would mean cutting the carpet.
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