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GLYNNE
Member Since: 06 Oct 2006
Location: KENT
Posts: 4695
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This could win me over 8)
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28th Oct 2017 10:55 pm |
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G7jtk
Member Since: 03 Jun 2014
Location: Prudhoe
Posts: 861
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😋😋😋 🎅🏻 take note
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29th Oct 2017 6:55 am |
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AndrewS
Tarquin of the Desert
Member Since: 06 May 2005
Location: Y...... because I can
Posts: 10441
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Load of bull advertising, lots of missleading crap.
For instance the tyres are not new they are 275/55-20 MTR's, I have the same on my D5, as a result the SVX is limited to 100mph. So the most powerful disco ever built is speed limited I bet the extra ground clearance is a load of carp.
Again Land Rover's not understanding what they could achieve.
Why not put the big powerful engine into a Disco SVR with road tyres.
And
Why not make the SVX the standard 3l diesel with all the beefed up off road trick bits.
Its not Foooking rocked science
High management have lost the plot IMO. I'm convinced Gerry has been planted into Land Rover by the German motor industry to sabotage the brand, fair play hes doing a grand job. In the Beginning there was nothing, which exploded.
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29th Oct 2017 7:22 am |
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OJ
Member Since: 01 Oct 2017
Location: Loch Leven
Posts: 725
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Could this be a hint towards the new Defender
Got to admit it looks and sounds very nice, how much
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29th Oct 2017 7:22 am |
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df_tom
Member Since: 09 Mar 2017
Location: Stuttgart
Posts: 127
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True overlander style: winch at the rear. That's the only thing i would love about this. Towbar probably not an option anymore.
The rubber is utter c..p, but you can't fit proper rubber on those 20in. They need the 20's for the massive brakes, methinks, but still proper offroad rubber begins at /80.
I would not like to have my car think of its own when it's sat on the edge of toppling over. So what is it with the hydro roll control (citroen activa system, anyone?) It's for speed cornering. They need active stabi when throwing around 2 1/4 ton lumps of luxury steel, mounted highly above the ground, at a speed beyond any reasonable driver would choose.
And yeah, McG added some orange bits and Xs. Good Job, eh! And look at the proper numberplate, man. Makes just the difference. Add a little underbody shield plate - superb. And, lo and behold, some light bar. Yay.
If this is all they could get in pushing the boundaries, that sais it all. This beast is no more capable off-road than any other diy-garage-tuned D5. Might perform better on the circuit, though. Still, i doubt you will see the likes of Bowler put out a D5 to their belgian mud-racing customers soon.
They should have built the svt -special vehicle towing. But VW have outdone them already and do an excellent tv advert with their trailer reversing assist. Sorry boys, you've lost the plot.
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29th Oct 2017 7:23 am |
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df_tom
Member Since: 09 Mar 2017
Location: Stuttgart
Posts: 127
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AndrewS: Now, 2 eejits, same thinking! Almost:
Opposed to you, i'm sure that McG has no say about the Defender. Their farming customers will buy Navara, Merc X, Amarok, Ranger and Pajero for the work instead, and maybe a Disco Sport or even Evoque for the shopping run.
The fooling around folk will go for used rats to rebuild and upgrade rather than buy a brand spanking new car just to tear it down, upgrade it proper and then put a dent in it.
LR certainly didn't need McG to decide to discontinue the Defender without a proper replacement lined up. I believe they have deliberatley chosen to leave this market behind. They have figured out that they cannot build a proper replacement and make some cash on it. So they threw the towel.
Wilks built something between a tractor and a car, a true utility vehicle, to be useful to the british farmers and handymen supporting their operations. He helped to build up great britain during and after the war. Now they build chelsea tractors carrying their occupants above and beyond the plebs.
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29th Oct 2017 7:26 am |
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RDR
Member Since: 24 Mar 2013
Location: Derbyshire
Posts: 2260
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I've registered interest with a refundable deposit at my dealer. Waiting for full details to come out but it wouldn't be replacing the D4 we would keep that one for loadspace and practicality. Dealer has confirmed the load space is nothing special i was hoping for more space without the 3rd row for the dogs and it could have been a contender for the main family car. MY06 S - Gone but not forgotten
MY12 HSE - Gone
MY16 HSE Luxury - Sold
MY20 D5 HSE - Sold
Current RR L460 PHEV
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29th Oct 2017 7:39 am |
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OJ
Member Since: 01 Oct 2017
Location: Loch Leven
Posts: 725
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df_tom wrote:AndrewS: Now, 2 eejits, same thinking! Almost:
Opposed to you, i'm sure that McG has no say about the Defender. Their farming customers will buy Navara, Merc X, Amarok, Ranger and Pajero for the work instead, and maybe a Disco Sport or even Evoque for the shopping run.
The fooling around folk will go for used rats to rebuild and upgrade rather than buy a brand spanking new car just to tear it down, upgrade it proper and then put a dent in it.
LR certainly didn't need McG to decide to discontinue the Defender without a proper replacement lined up. I believe they have deliberatley chosen to leave this market behind. They have figured out that they cannot build a proper replacement and make some cash on it. So they threw the towel.
Wilks built something between a tractor and a car, a true utility vehicle, to be useful to the british farmers and handymen supporting their operations. He helped to build up great britain during and after the war. Now they build chelsea tractors carrying their occupants above and beyond the plebs.
You left out Isuzu , JLR have moved on abandoned their roots, now worth a fortune and hugely successful with their marketing, the owners and shareholders will no doubt be extremely happy, do you think they are bothered about the minority of owners who have retained or modified their Defenders, think not, it’s all down to how much profit can now be made, there will always be the specialists who go above and beyond with modification for the endless list of customers clambering to hold on to their piece of rusting and corroding nostalgia and they also like the lucrative profit. Land Rover have a reputation for longevity but it’s not LR that’s responsible it’s the individual owners with thier dedication to protect and save their own individual pieces of heritage. It’s those particular individuals that are due the credit that make Land Rover what it is today because without them it’s doubtful if the brand could have survived this length of time. But alas we have to accept change and what is available now, I don’t think the proposed SVX or new Defender will be that bad but wholly reliant on micro chips and programing to do what a good driver already knows what to do.
So if I’m another ”eejit” as you put it then so be it, sticks and stones!
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29th Oct 2017 8:29 am |
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DiscoStu
Member Since: 09 Apr 2006
Location: London
Posts: 11412
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Quote:You left out Isuzu Thumbs Up , JLR have moved on abandoned their roots, now worth a fortune
High (ish) volume doesn't mean that they are making a fortune - selling high-profit vehicles does. Disco 5 HSE Lux
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peyiqaJrmMU
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30th Oct 2017 7:25 am |
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OJ
Member Since: 01 Oct 2017
Location: Loch Leven
Posts: 725
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Seem to recall reading JLR have 6 billion to invest in another car company, have to sell a few cars to amass that kind of dosh
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30th Oct 2017 10:15 am |
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