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gstuart
 


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Pete K wrote:
pull the fuse by the glovebox out

and check the current has dropped under the bonnet


P.S your red battery wire is upside down. I guess you did this to get the current clamp round it


Will do, fuse F46 was the one and will recheck at the battery pos lead Thumbs Up

Indeed I did, turn that red lead upside down, made life easier
   
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Pete K
 


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gstuart wrote:






What connections on the yellow meter were you using?

I suspect this reading is too low, (which is good as we were looking for more)

If you were using A and com with the fuse still fitted, some of the current will have been going thru the fuse and some thru your meter. Therefore the meter would read low.
  
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Pete K
 


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J fuse holder ?

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mini-P-Plastic-...Sw2DJbO8RZ


It's not worth you buying it, as you could have it fixed before it arrives. But see the principal of the ebay item below.

You remove the fuse, plug this in, and all the current goes via your yellow meter, to be read.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Voltcraft-MS-4S...SwrklVEnfB

2 suitable crimps would do a simlar job.
  
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Pete K wrote:
gstuart wrote:






What connections on the yellow meter were you using?

I suspect this reading is too low, (which is good as we were looking for more)

If you were using A and com with the fuse still fitted, some of the current will have been going thru the fuse and some thru your meter. Therefore the meter would read low.


I used com and Ma , plus that multimeter automatically zeros itself , far better quality than the clamp meter I bought

Plus they weren’t far out when I compared both of them together Thumbs Up

Did u also like the test leads I done, cable tied them together, was a lot easier being able to test the glove box fuses
   
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Pete K wrote:
J fuse holder ?

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mini-P-Plastic-...Sw2DJbO8RZ


It's not worth you buying it, as you could have it fixed before it arrives. But see the principal of the ebay item below.

You remove the fuse, plug this in, and all the current goes via your yellow meter, to be read.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Voltcraft-MS-4S...SwrklVEnfB

2 suitable crimps would do a simlar job.


Ah nice one, thks , am well chuffed as with ur guidance been able to progress

U just wanted me to make all the test leads up Rolling with laughter

Daft question plse, hoe is that memory module able to keep drawing amperage after the vehicle has gone to sleep

Does it have like a capacity etc, thks again Bow down
   
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Hopefully u can see the orange meter dials better Thumbs Up


   
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Plus have u ever seen one of these , as ur onto ur electronics

Is to aid in finding a break in a wire

https://www.amazon.co.uk/GearWrench-2524D-...B000RH6JP6

   
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Using com and ma with a fuse still fitted gives a very low reading. This is good as we were looking for 300ma

Maybe you can explain how you fitted the seats. If you can remember Wink
  
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Perfect , so that’s indeed good then Thumbs Up

Here are the links I used when inretro fitted the electric seats

https://www.disco3.co.uk/forum/discovery-3...tric+seats

https://www.disco3.co.uk/forum/electric-se...ass+memory

https://www.disco3.co.uk/forum/electric-se...ass+memory

This was my thread , when I asked

https://www.disco3.co.uk/forum/desperate-h...t=electric

Are u also going to retrofit electric seats then pete Thumbs Up
   
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I had electric seats from factory.

Just trying to understand why you may have this issue.
  
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Ah i see, thks and makes sense Thumbs Up

Know when I was first testing the cabin fuses they were all zero,then I released I had my meter on volts instead of Ma Whistle

Could a bad seat earth cause this kind of amperage draw please , or simply a bad component inside the memory module , bad motor windings ??? , but indeed no point guessing

Will be interesting tommorow to see what the reading will be at the pos lead after I pull F46

Must admit if it proves 100% that’s the issue would be interesting to try and decipher why , or what tests I’m able to do , basically for curiosity as I imagine it will bug u as well

Fingers crossed can get it under the recommended 22 MAmp after going into sleep mode

Hope u don’t mind me asking Pete are u into electronics a lot plse Thumbs Up
   
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My thoughts are:

1. Does the passenger electric seat work with the key out? This isn't good if it does and could be the drain.

2. drivers seat not wired correctly (hardly surprising)

3. Memory module faulty.


I don't understand how you have bypassed the memory module? Is it still connected or did you fit a passenger loom to drivers seat ?

Once you established the seat is the problem, put your clamp round the red/white wire and see if that has the 300mA thru it
  
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Hi

1) yes it does but only for a limited time , say a minute after the key is removed

2 ) indeed , bypassing the memory control module

3 ) definitely a strong contender

Just followed the other threads where someone had worked out how to bypass the memory module, it will only allow 2-3 seconds bursts of power to the seat in order u can move it , then u have to release the seat switch and then press it again

I bought the seats from an HSE and it had the looms already in the electric seats

drivers having the memory module where as the passenger one just has a relay as part of the seats loom, pass seat was plug and play and req no mods

The memory module is used like a wiring centre

Will indeed report back to ur goodself of my findings

Think it will be easier to just undo the seat base cushion which will then give me considerably better access to the seat wiring in its entirety

Also wondering would it be worth plse disconnecting the drivers seat air bag wire and tuck it out of the way , of course will disconnect the battery and wait 20 x mins or so before removing the airbag wire

So when I put the vehicle into sleep mode and using a multimeter there’s no risk of it causing any issues

Know it’s on a different circuit , just concerns me using a multimeter in close proximity and the vehicle won’t be started , so airbag system won’t be charged

Thks Thumbs Up Bow down
   
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Ref this picture , can see alll the wires that plug into the memory module

If it’s found to be the issue , will get another drivers loom and 8 x way seat switch in order for the entire memory module and associate wiring can be removed entirely










   
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I would just leave the airbag stuff alone.

If the leak is thru the red white seat wire, maybe it could be connected to the ignition circuit
  
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