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eran48
Member Since: 10 Dec 2007
Location: Sydney
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G'day everybody,
This is my first post but I had been lurking for a few months - awesome site.
I will be taking delivery of my Tdv6 SE in about two weeks and am busy working out all the accessories to buy. 
I would like to get the expedition rack but I am getting conflicting information from the dealers. One said that I will also need to purchase the Roof Rails (not the cross rails but the ones that run longitudinally from front to rear) in order to fit the rack and another said the rack itself is complete and bolts straight to the roof of the vehicle.
Can some Expedition Rack owners confirm how the rack is actually fitted to the vehicle?
If the Roof Rails are required, does anybody know if the Rhino rails will fit? The Rhino rails are one quarter the price of LR's rails.
Thanks for your help!
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 10th Jan 2008 12:00 am |
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Andycapper
Member Since: 09 Sep 2007
Location: Melbourne
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Hi Eran,
I too am waiting on delivery of my Discovery - sometime around first week of February and I asked the same question. The answer I finally obtained is that the expedition rack bolts directly to the mounting points on the roof and does not require roof rails.
In the medium term I would also like an expedition rack but Oz price put it into the nice to have rather than must have for now.
In case it is of interest, I have also seen reference to people putting insulation under the front of the rack (to fill the space between the roof and the bottom of the rack) to minimise wind noise - though I have no idea whether this rack is any better or worse in this respect than other racks - it just looks as though it belongs on the Disco, unlike most after market versions...
Good luck with your new Disco.
all the best,
Andy Have my new year Disco..! Atacama Sand, active diff, active headlights, hi-ice, cooler, sliding loadspace floor, window tint, MP3, Mantec plate, roof rails, mud
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| 10th Jan 2008 12:33 am |
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PierreJ
Member Since: 22 Aug 2007
Location: Perth, W.A.
Posts: 448
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Hi Eran48,
I had a look in the GTR and it shows the roorails, but also shows brackets which gets fitted inside the roofrails. I would also be interested in the response from owners with this rack, to hear, but it seems it could be done.
My dealer told me I needed both, but at almost $3K for all, it definitely does not suite my needs.
Cheers,
Pierre Why is the fear of long words called hippopotomonstrosesquippedaliophobia?
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| 10th Jan 2008 4:19 am |
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The Large One
Member Since: 20 Apr 2007
Location: Down the polytunnel
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you will need the front to rear rails CAB500120PVJ for the expo rack to fit
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| 10th Jan 2008 6:08 am |
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eran48
Member Since: 10 Dec 2007
Location: Sydney
Posts: 165
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Thanks Piere for pointing me to the GTR website.
I managed to get the fitting instructions for the Expedition Rack and it does look like the Roof Rails ARE needed to fit the Expedition Rack. 
The rack is secured in three places along its length. The front most point is bolted to the front of the roof - the plastic trim needs to have a small hole drilled in order to fit the foot that the front of the rack bolts to.
The other two securing points (middle and rear of the rack) actually gets bolted to the Roof rails. Two metal plates with bolts running through them are slid into the rails and the rack is then rested on the roof rails and bolted up.
It looks like the rack actually sits on the Roof rails.
What I am wondering now is whether the middle and rear metal plates will fit the Rhino rails. These rails will fit the D3 nicely and only costs around $150. Compare this with $600 for the LR rails!! 
If someone can tell me what the width of the LR Roof rails - (both total width and the width of the open gap), I'll check with Rhino Rack and we'll see if their roof rail is compatible with the Expedition Rack.
Andy, it looks like you have been given incorrect information?
It will still be good to have some OWNERS of the expedition rack to confirm all this.
Apparently, the roof rails were fitted as standard on some early models but Land Rover Australia got greedy and removed them from all the later models.
Cheers
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| 10th Jan 2008 6:13 am |
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Doctor Diesel
Member Since: 23 Sep 2006
Location: Driving the kids around as usual
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eran48 wrote:
It will still be good to have some OWNERS of the expedition rack to confirm all this.
YES, you need roof rails. (LR or Other)
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| 10th Jan 2008 6:51 am |
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norto
Member Since: 10 Apr 2006
Location: batemans bay
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eran48
I fitted the Rhino rails and they are fine.
I think the owner of the rights to Rhino in OZ
has a D3 so it was a priority to get them made in house Pete
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| 10th Jan 2008 6:57 am |
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eran48
Member Since: 10 Dec 2007
Location: Sydney
Posts: 165
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Norto,
Did you fit the Rhino roof rails with the Expedition Rack or just the roof rails?
I am comfortable that the Rhino roof rails will fit the D3 fine but am unsure if the Expedition rack will fit the Rhino rails.
Cheers
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| 10th Jan 2008 7:23 am |
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norto
Member Since: 10 Apr 2006
Location: batemans bay
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Only the rails.
AFAIK they are the same as the LR ones Pete
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| 10th Jan 2008 7:27 am |
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StornowaySA
Member Since: 23 Sep 2007
Location: Adelaide
Posts: 406
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I have my rack off at the moment; the comments above are spot on - you need the rails and they are supported at three points; I'm the only person who doesnt think its too noisy left on  but it does reduce ability to park in my car park at work!! i measure the width of the LR rails as approx 3.5cm's with internal gap approx 1.8cm widening to 2.8cm at those points where the rack supports are designed to enter and then sldie along and be fixed. Make sense?? MY2010 D4 HSE 3.0, e-diff, 19inch MTR's; LLAMS Height adjustor, LR f & r light guards, LR side steps, LR bright finish side door mouldings; LR/Mantec G4 front bash plate, LR G4 Winch kit, Warn 9500lb Winch; GOE compressor guard, Uniden UHF, LR bright finish roof rails, LR G4 driving light kit, LR G4 ladder, 4 x extra rear compartment 12V sockets, Traxide dual battery system and Optima Yellowtop battery, ORS drawer system / fridge slide, LED rear compartment lighting.
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| 10th Jan 2008 10:06 am |
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Alex08
Member Since: 09 Nov 2006
Location: Glasgow
Posts: 1600
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BlackPerth wrote: I'm the only person who doesnt think its too noisy left on but it does reduce ability to park in my car park at work!
I'm the same - mine stays on. The balance is between the bother of getting it off, and the problem with finding a 2.10m car park in the centre of town.
On the bright side, the car park at SWMBO's work is 2.05m  No competition for the the D3 then! It's mine, all mine...... 
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| 10th Jan 2008 10:10 am |
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DG
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Member Since: 12 Dec 2005
Location: The Gaff
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You can cure the noise issue chaps  21 year LR veteran > D2 GS 2003 > D3 S 2006 > D3 HSE 2009 > D4 HSE 2013 > D4 HSE 2015 > D5 HSE 2018 > DS HSE R-Dynamic P300e 2021
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| 10th Jan 2008 10:15 am |
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eran48
Member Since: 10 Dec 2007
Location: Sydney
Posts: 165
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Thanks BlackPerth for the measurements. Clear as day. 
I'll pop in to a Rhino rack store this Saturday and check out their roof rail dimensions.
I'll get back to you guys then.
Cheers
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| 10th Jan 2008 12:05 pm |
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WayneD
Member Since: 11 Sep 2007
Location: Sydney Darwin ,Singapore, USA, UK and now country NSW
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Just spotted a black Disco 3 "s" raised a couple of inches and it had a Rhino rack with the LR roof rails. It was at St.Peters ARB so not too far away from you Sonny! Take the road less traveled. Dual battery system.ORS drawers,LR cargo Barrier.ARB Bull bar,side protection bars,Mickey Thompson ATR's 17" rims, Rear wheel carrier, radiator guard TPMS Mitchell Bros Tow Hitch LR RAI Steel Rims , GME UHF, Off Road GPS, Llams (yet to be fitted)
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| 11th Jan 2008 1:16 am |
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BarryG
Member Since: 30 Apr 2006
Location: Eire
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DG wrote:You can cure the noise issue chaps
How DG...? Dont have a rack.... but some day soon 
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