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razzle
Member Since: 18 Jul 2006
Location: Tas
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| Diesel: Are we being ripped off |
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Filled up today and diesel had hit 1.55c/lt, and petrol was 1.30c/lt. (I am sure diesel was only 1.30c/lt about 8 weeks ago)
I know it’s Xmas holidays but what are others paying at the moment, and is there a 25 c/lt difference between diesel and petrol? in your part of Oz Trust me, what could go wrong?
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 30th Dec 2007 11:24 am |
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trikki
Member Since: 16 Feb 2007
Location: sydney
Posts: 34
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The reason I bought a diesel is because I was sick of my gas guzzling v8 and diesel was about .20 less than petrol at tme of ordering. Ever since I took delivery I too have noticed the price rise well above petrol - I'm feeling very ripped off. Maybe it's my fault! - I just can't win
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| 30th Dec 2007 12:05 pm |
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Getafix
Member Since: 13 Sep 2007
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 229
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And Diesel costs less to refine! Yes with diesel, we are getting ripped off, huge profits made by the "petrol" companies. Ah well, wadayado.  <*(((<<
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| 30th Dec 2007 12:10 pm |
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Jimbob Squarepants
Member Since: 27 Oct 2007
Location: Miles Away from Home
Posts: 1063
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Agreed - the petrol companies are making huge profits - undeniable!
However, I think you'll find that they only make pennies on each litre sold at the pumps - the Government take the largest cut by far (Well at least they do in the UK).
(I do work in the Oil & Gas industry but for a contractor at the 'upstream' end. We regularly get screwed by the Oil Companies - I have no sympathies for them) Too much intellectual firepower can damage your common sense.
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| 30th Dec 2007 12:31 pm |
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PBob
Member Since: 11 Feb 2007
Location: Mudgee NSW
Posts: 167
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Mudgee today:
Diesel 154.9c and Unleaded 144.9c.
All a rip off - they are charging up to 10c per litre to deliver this stuff 300km. 2006 HSE TDV6 Bonatti Grey, ECB bull bar, tropical roof, LG Next G car kit, Tom Tom GPS, UHF, Mitchell Bros tow bar, Kimberley Kamper Limited Edition camper trailer and 23 foot Haines Signature half cabin (Towed separately!)
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| 31st Dec 2007 3:45 am |
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caverD3
Member Since: 02 Jul 2006
Location: Oberon, NSW
Posts: 6922
 
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| Re: Diesel: Are we being ripped off |
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Diesel: Are we being ripped off
YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! “There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely gamesâ€
Ernest Hemmingway
D4 3.0 Active Diff, Adaptive Lights, High Beam Assist, Surround Cameras, Privacy Glass.
D3 2.7:Adaptive Headlights,Electronic Rear Diff,ARB Bar,Blaupunkt Speakers,JVC Powered Subwoofer,Removable Snorkel,Mitch Hitch,Pioneer After Market Head Unit,Steering Wheel Control Adaptor,Remote Adjustable Supension Rod System, Taxside Dual Battery System.
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| 31st Dec 2007 6:19 am |
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martin4x4
Member Since: 23 May 2005
Location: Norfolk, UK
Posts: 362
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Cheap!
Current UK price for Diesel is about £1.07/Litre compared to your £0.68/litre.  Discovery 3 XS Auto, Stornaway, Active rear diff.
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| 31st Dec 2007 9:15 am |
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caverD3
Member Since: 02 Jul 2006
Location: Oberon, NSW
Posts: 6922
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It's the differential between petrol and diesel that gat's me.
We had a 'petrol' price enquiry in NSW recently.
Yes it was only for unleaded petrol (not diesel, not premium unleaded)  “There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely gamesâ€
Ernest Hemmingway
D4 3.0 Active Diff, Adaptive Lights, High Beam Assist, Surround Cameras, Privacy Glass.
D3 2.7:Adaptive Headlights,Electronic Rear Diff,ARB Bar,Blaupunkt Speakers,JVC Powered Subwoofer,Removable Snorkel,Mitch Hitch,Pioneer After Market Head Unit,Steering Wheel Control Adaptor,Remote Adjustable Supension Rod System, Taxside Dual Battery System.
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| 31st Dec 2007 10:24 pm |
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Neil Pettersen
Member Since: 23 Nov 2007
Location: Cutting the grass
Posts: 1254
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10 cents extra a litre for 98 octane annoys the Hell out of me 
I noticed that it's 8 Pence more in the UK (20 Cents) and since the fuel
duty is on the volume -- only VAT(GST) is on the price -- Poms are
really being stiffed.
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| 31st Dec 2007 10:31 pm |
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BROWNIE 59
Member Since: 01 Jan 2008
Location: sydney
Posts: 2
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Hi all, am new to this forum, (I'm from the dark side - RRS forum) but enjoy your site just as much, if not more. More informative!
PBob, we definitely are being ripped off for a product that, apparently, is cheaper to produce, but the price in Sydney is similar to Mudgee - $1.53.9 last week at Kensington, near Randwick Race Course. What can we do? We need an enquiry similar to the unleaded one. That found nothing except that consumers know when to fill up - Tuesdays, it's cheaper on that day - GO FIGURE???? What an answer! 
Brownie
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| 1st Jan 2008 3:55 am |
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Neil Pettersen
Member Since: 23 Nov 2007
Location: Cutting the grass
Posts: 1254
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Welcome Brownie59 
We maybe your poorer cousins,but D3ers are a hell of a bunch 
Talk away!
Neil
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| 1st Jan 2008 4:56 am |
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BROWNIE 59
Member Since: 01 Jan 2008
Location: sydney
Posts: 2
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Neil, not so much poorer, but more adventurous and out there!
To be honest the D3 didn't appeal at first, but now the shape has really grown on me.
Brownie. Life's a beach, go for a long swim!
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| 1st Jan 2008 1:32 pm |
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jonesy63
Member Since: 17 Oct 2006
Location: Didn't we have a lovely time, the day we went to ...
Posts: 848
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the ACCC really does have a lot of explaining to do!
Diesel IS cheaper to manufacture.
Diesel IS used in large volume - due to our  rail system which ensures all out goods are shiped to our shops in diesel trucks. Then we commute on diesel buses, take long distance trips on diesel trains, etc.
Diesel in Australia is now up to third world standards... in 2009, we should be at EU standards.
It seems to me petrol manufacturers are gouging us... no two ways about it...
Off to the ACCC and new govt web sites to complain.
Cheers,
Rob
(Edited - too many red vinos tonight... <hick>   )
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| 1st Jan 2008 1:38 pm |
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Slimer
Site Moderator
Member Since: 06 Jan 2005
Location: Last Exit to Nowhere
Posts: 16295
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I thought (though probably wrongly) that diesel actually cost more to refine now. Originally it was cheaper because of the type of oil used but with the type of oil being obtained nowadays and the higher standards required from diesel it is now a bit more expensive to produce. Irrelevant really though as the major cost to the consumer for either fuel is the extortionate taxes added on by governments
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| 1st Jan 2008 1:44 pm |
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razzle
Member Since: 18 Jul 2006
Location: Tas
Posts: 170
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Just returned from a quick work trip to the US and they have the same price difference in petrol (3.80 p/gallon)and diesel (4.20p/gallon)prices, as we have here. This is roughly Au$1.00 p/litre for petrol, the poor were going off their heads about paying this price.
I can’t believe how cheap things are in the US, You can buy a 2 yr old Range Rover HSE for the equivalent of Au$45000.
Ps I would love to be paying the fuel prices, that where available at the start of this thread, I haven’t been game to check out the Diesel prices here yet Trust me, what could go wrong?
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