Member Since: 13 Mar 2011
Location: Leicester
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New Engine reqd. 50k miles & 2 years old
Hi, had a little weird vibration 4 days ago from my 2 year old D4.
Been told its the Crankshaft/Bearings and i need a new engine.
Is this a major problem, i thought it was more on the 2.7 engines with high mileage.
Also been told that it will take 4-8 weeks to repair... Really??
Been given a Mitsubishi L200 Pick up as a replacement FFS.
Anyone else been down this route in a 2016 D4?
Cheers
Phil
24th Aug 2018 4:55 pm
LT
Member Since: 31 Dec 2005
Location: South West
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Sorry to hear that.
My 16 plate D4 has just clocked up 45k miles.
Surely you're entitled to a LR vehicle as a replacement under the LRA scheme. It's still covered by the original warranty.2006 D3 HSE (Original & still the best)-GONE
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24th Aug 2018 4:59 pm
DSL Keeper of the wheelie bin
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Get on the phone with LRCS, a pickup is seriously taking the peewee.
24th Aug 2018 5:02 pm
grzesiul
Member Since: 11 May 2008
Location: UK
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this makes me way worried as I am coming up to 50K bright future for those motors I guess
time to change to Porsche?
G
24th Aug 2018 5:12 pm
DSL Keeper of the wheelie bin
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Re: New Engine reqd. 50k miles & 2 years old
Mad Phil wrote:
Is this a major problem
Depends on your perspective. Some will say it’s a small proportion (8% ISTR) so basically all is well and to be expected. Basically get over it and go away. Of course if you’re part of that 8% and not in warranty you’re stuffed financially due to an acknowledged design fault that JLR won’t do anything about or compensate for. Cartainly in my last business if we had that level of failure we’d have been put out of business but obviously big boys play by different rules.
I don’t think there is any difference in the crank between the D4 & D5, will be interesting to see if/when these start snapping like twiglets on the D5.
24th Aug 2018 5:18 pm
Mad Phil
Member Since: 13 Mar 2011
Location: Leicester
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Apparently they are trying to get me a LR vehicle but none available at the moment & I'm 9th on the waiting list.
The LR Assistance tech that came out said it was a known problem but not at a common problem.
Usually fail 30-60k.
Problem was the crank being twisted slightly on installation moving/blocking oil way alignment.
On Ford/Citroen build units??
Not sure how much to believe really.
24th Aug 2018 5:19 pm
Pelyma
Member Since: 06 Jan 2005
Location: Patching, Sussex
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grzesiul wrote:
this makes me way worried as I am coming up to 50K bright future for those motors I guess
time to change to Porsche?
G
I’m thinking the same.DS3 TDV6 HSE - Silver with Alpaca (old one) Gone
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24th Aug 2018 7:29 pm
LT
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I'm thinking SDV8.2006 D3 HSE (Original & still the best)-GONE
2010 D4 HSE (A bit bling)-GONE
2014 D4 HSE (Almost too bling)-GONE
2015 D4 HSE (A heated what?)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Written Off)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Surely the last!) PD1881 rims-GONE
2017 FFRR SDV8 Autobiography
24th Aug 2018 9:49 pm
Pelyma
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Can’t afford a TDV8 new and I don’t think I want a second hand LR, the Porsche warranty looks very comprehensive and seem to be mechanically bulletproof, but I’ve not driven one. The new Touareg is a 3.0 on air and is a good price. LR just don’t seem to make a car for me anymore.DS3 TDV6 HSE - Silver with Alpaca (old one) Gone
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24th Aug 2018 10:05 pm
robpenrose
Member Since: 12 Jan 2016
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The crank shaft should not break on any car at any mileage.
But things do break. And I think people can generally accept that.
The issue here is the cost to sort this issue. LR should be ashamed of themselves. And if it’s such a small number as some claim, they why don’t they just replace them FOC - As a massive company and considering they say it’s such a tidy amount, it won’t make any difference to them!!
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24th Aug 2018 10:11 pm
Pelyma
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But LR branded extended warranty won’t cover it as it’s a design fault.DS3 TDV6 HSE - Silver with Alpaca (old one) Gone
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24th Aug 2018 10:48 pm
Russell
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Re: New Engine reqd. 50k miles & 2 years old
Mad Phil wrote:
Hi, had a little weird vibration 4 days ago from my 2 year old D4.
Been told its the Crankshaft/Bearings and i need a new engine.
Is this a major problem, i thought it was more on the 2.7 engines with high mileage.
Also been told that it will take 4-8 weeks to repair... Really??
Been given a Mitsubishi L200 Pick up as a replacement FFS.
Anyone else been down this route in a 2016 D4?
Cheers
Phil
Why 4/8 weeks, the new engines can normally be sourced from LR same week, then just swap over.
When my D4 had a replacment engine for other reasons it was all done and dusted in under 10 daysMY17 D5 1st Edition Namib Orange
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MY12 D4 HSE Nara Bronze Sold and gone
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25th Aug 2018 2:25 am
Red Merle
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It’s worth remembering that it’s an engine supplied and built by Ford and LR will have little control over availability of additional units at short notice. Depending on their own production schedules, Ford may be able to turn around additional engines in a couple of weeks, or a couple of months.
Considering that Ford are loosing the contract to supply, I don’t imagine that they’re going to put themselves out and I don’t imagine that they are any better at dealing with warranty claims with LR than they are with any hapless private buyers of Ford vehicles either!
I imagine that LR are looking forward to the day when everything comes out of their own plant in Wolverhampton! 2011 - 2015: 3 x FL2
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^ no, JLR took over the production of these engines from Ford around 2012, and this is the same time when they claimed that they had fixed the crank issue.
which we all know is BS --
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