Pelyma
Member Since: 06 Jan 2005
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DG wrote:WTF does a D4 have to do with it? 
I think he’s trying to make you envious  DS3 TDV6 HSE - Silver with Alpaca (old one) Gone
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D4 HSE Lux - Montalcino Red Gone
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DG
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Member Since: 12 Dec 2005
Location: The Gaff
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Pelyma wrote:Surely there is a standard they have to meet?
Yes Paul ...they have to come on when you press the brake pedal
Just like in the video 
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| 19th Jan 2019 6:39 pm |
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Someone-Gone
Member Since: 21 Dec 2015
Location: Gone
Posts: 5117
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The King is dead, long live the King 
Get with the programme.
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| 19th Jan 2019 6:39 pm |
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DG
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From the lighting regs
Quote:Stop lamps
6. Size of illuminated area:
No requirement
8. Wattage–
(a) A stop lamp fitted to a motor vehicle first used before 1st January 1971 or a trailer manufactured before that date and a stop lamp bearing an approval mark:
No requirement
(b) Any other stop lamp:
15 to 36 watts
9. Intensity:
No requirement
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| 19th Jan 2019 6:44 pm |
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Red Merle
Member Since: 30 Aug 2014
Location: Liskeard
Posts: 7441
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So, the minimal performance requirements are very low then. I can see why they might feel it was sufficient. 2011 - 2015: 3 x FL2
2015 - 2017: 2 x D4
2017 to date: FFRR SDV8
2023 to date: 2 x FL2 as “second” cars 🙄
2021 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200
2022 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200 & sidecar!
(One of only two known to exist in the world!)
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| 19th Jan 2019 8:52 pm |
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Red Merle
Member Since: 30 Aug 2014
Location: Liskeard
Posts: 7441
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DG wrote:WTF does a D4 have to do with it?
A common point of reference to judge them buy. 2011 - 2015: 3 x FL2
2015 - 2017: 2 x D4
2017 to date: FFRR SDV8
2023 to date: 2 x FL2 as “second” cars 🙄
2021 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200
2022 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200 & sidecar!
(One of only two known to exist in the world!)
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| 19th Jan 2019 8:57 pm |
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DG
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Yes.... but ultimately ...you just have to open your eyes
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| 19th Jan 2019 8:57 pm |
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Red Merle
Member Since: 30 Aug 2014
Location: Liskeard
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I’m still keen to see how much the performance has improved, especially if I’m “to get with the programme” (thank you Dundonian). It has improved, hasn’t it? 2011 - 2015: 3 x FL2
2015 - 2017: 2 x D4
2017 to date: FFRR SDV8
2023 to date: 2 x FL2 as “second” cars 🙄
2021 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200
2022 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200 & sidecar!
(One of only two known to exist in the world!)
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| 19th Jan 2019 9:11 pm |
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AndrewS
Tarquin of the Desert
Member Since: 06 May 2005
Location: Y...... because I can
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It hasn't did you not watch the beach race D4 v D5. In the Beginning there was nothing, which exploded.
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| 19th Jan 2019 11:22 pm |
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Red Merle
Member Since: 30 Aug 2014
Location: Liskeard
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That video was some time ago and I’m struggling to find it again. Are you able to provide a link please? 2011 - 2015: 3 x FL2
2015 - 2017: 2 x D4
2017 to date: FFRR SDV8
2023 to date: 2 x FL2 as “second” cars 🙄
2021 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200
2022 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200 & sidecar!
(One of only two known to exist in the world!)
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| 20th Jan 2019 4:37 am |
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Someone-Gone
Member Since: 21 Dec 2015
Location: Gone
Posts: 5117
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Oh, a beach race, that’s scientific. Good luck with that one.
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| 20th Jan 2019 6:01 am |
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Red Merle
Member Since: 30 Aug 2014
Location: Liskeard
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For anyone that lives somewhere rural, where it’s dark at night, of much greater importance are the laughable reversing lights. I’ve just handed back my D5 loaner again and reversing up the drive at night had to be done blind, while the usual cure of dabbing the ‘5’s ineffectual brake lights has no significant affect. None of this can be cured by upgrading bulbs.
I’m still interested by your “get with the programme” comment. Are you suggesting that this is progress, or that we should simply lower our minimum standards to suit? 2011 - 2015: 3 x FL2
2015 - 2017: 2 x D4
2017 to date: FFRR SDV8
2023 to date: 2 x FL2 as “second” cars 🙄
2021 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200
2022 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200 & sidecar!
(One of only two known to exist in the world!)
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| 20th Jan 2019 7:32 am |
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Someone-Gone
Member Since: 21 Dec 2015
Location: Gone
Posts: 5117
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You’re a D5 hater, little point in arguing. I am amazed you accept one as a curtesy car. It’s not for everyone.
Re the reversing lights, peps on the D5 forum have successfully upgraded the reversing lights. I am rural as well, I just don’t have a problem.
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| 20th Jan 2019 8:07 am |
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chugga90
Member Since: 13 Aug 2014
Location: Buckinghamshire
Posts: 446
 
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I think less bright reversing lights must be the latest energy saving approach by manufacturers.
My T6 van has far less useful reversing lights than my five year older D4.
So D4 reversing lights must be very good?
Not really driven many D5’s in the dark to make comparison.
Currently trying led bulbs in the T6! Discovery commercial tdv6 auto 2013
Volkswagen t6 lwb Kombi dsg 4motion 2018
Volkswagen t5.1 lwb single cab tipper 2013
Discovery commercial sdv6 auto 2014 gone and not really missed.
Range Rover Tdv8 gone
Freelander 2 I6 very sadly gone
VW t5 Dsg gone and missed
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| 20th Jan 2019 8:16 am |
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Red Merle
Member Since: 30 Aug 2014
Location: Liskeard
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The Dundonian wrote:You’re a D5 hater, little point in arguing. I am amazed you accept one as a curtesy car. It’s not for everyone.
Re the reversing lights, peps on the D5 forum have successfully upgraded the reversing lights. I am rural as well, I just don’t have a problem.
Yes, I’ve seen that. Bolt on reversing lights - very “Caravan Club”. That takes me back to the early 1970’s and my old man’s Morris 1800 
On the plus side, the D5 has retained the full length boot floor of the real thing, so I can get the dog ramp in, which is why it beats a DS as a loaner. 2011 - 2015: 3 x FL2
2015 - 2017: 2 x D4
2017 to date: FFRR SDV8
2023 to date: 2 x FL2 as “second” cars 🙄
2021 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200
2022 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200 & sidecar!
(One of only two known to exist in the world!)
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| 20th Jan 2019 8:56 am |
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