Insert Dr. David Banner quote here I know it's not considered "kind" to say no these days, but no. Just no, ok? And if it's not ok, still no.
28th Feb 2019 11:07 pm
pjm-84
Member Since: 04 Oct 2016
Location: Hampshire
Posts: 2589
gardner 180...… what an engine.
28th Feb 2019 11:58 pm
LiftedDisco
Member Since: 10 Jun 2010
Location: Towcester
Posts: 1002
I spent years running around Europe with a hospitality bus and a Gardiner 180 - ah, memories of knocking out the compression on all cylinders to get it turning over on the last vestiges of a battery, then flicking in one bank of three cylinders...
Talk about running rough...
...but at least it got it turning over and you could then flick in the other three cylinders to restore normal running...
Memories!D4 Commercial - 65 Plate, 2016MY
D5 Commercial - Handed back when I left that job…
D4 Commercial (2014MY) - gone
D4 Commercial SDV6 - Baltic Blue (also gone)
D1 300TDi... 2" lift, HD bumpers (both), detachable tow hitch, 9,500lb winch, 235/85/16 muds and plenty of other toys (gone to make way for the next toy...)
Smiles per Mile - Tornado Motorsports caged Evo 3... 100" Defender look-alike, with Range Rover running gear - all fully IVA'd and registered!
3rd Mar 2019 9:06 pm
lynalldiscovery
Member Since: 22 Dec 2009
Location: Maidstone
Posts: 7274
pjm-84 wrote:
gardner 180...… what an engine.
When I started it was the first of the turbo gardners and they were dead reliable we had six and one mech spent his entire working life keeping just them six truck engiens running, not the rest of the truck just the engines!
3rd Mar 2019 9:09 pm
lynalldiscovery
Member Since: 22 Dec 2009
Location: Maidstone
Posts: 7274
LiftedDisco wrote:
I spent years running around Europe with a hospitality bus and a Gardiner 180 - ah, memories of knocking out the compression on all cylinders to get it turning over on the last vestiges of a battery, then flicking in one bank of three cylinders...
Talk about running rough...
...but at least it got it turning over and you could then flick in the other three cylinders to restore normal running...
Memories!
We had one 8 cyl gardner and it had levers on the huge inj pump so you could switch off cylinders to save fuel when running home light.
This was when the Volvo F7 and F10 models started to take over and 20 yrs later ERF was taken over by MAN and the then ERFs were rebadged MANs.
Seeing a fleet of Foden’s, ERF’s and Atki’s fitted with various 150’s 180’s and 240’s starting up in a yard was a sight that far back, couldn’t see a thing.
3rd Mar 2019 9:29 pm
lynalldiscovery
Member Since: 22 Dec 2009
Location: Maidstone
Posts: 7274
See now we can talk Eaton twin split or Roadranger and look really old
The Erf drivers took 5 galllons of oil with them on a Monday and used it all by Friday each week of the year, apparently the trick was to keep it just above the minimum as to high meant the crank webs swiped the oil and its lost quite a bit of power.
I would like to say I look back fondly, but in reality they were bags of carp!
Drove new generation Scania last night, I dont like Scanias at all but have to say what a tool, the most car like truck I have ever driven.
Eaton twin split, nice box, marmite though, needed patience, the Fuller wasn’t bad either, many of today’s drivers wouldn’t have a clue, most of them now can only drive if it has two pedals.
4th Mar 2019 5:13 pm
amazing
Member Since: 05 Mar 2011
Location: chengdu
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Member Since: 28 Mar 2018
Location: Street/Somerset
Posts: 176
lynalldiscovery wrote:
I wonder if its a simple as they make it out to be?
Im not being secptical but I cant believe a car whos engine is twice the size and weighs at least twice as much and auto can be cleaner than the frenchie?
For example theres Euro 6 and then theres the latest Euro6, will have to google as I cannot remember what its called!
The Renault is a 2017 model, the Disco a 2018 model, Im sure a 2018 Renault was really hard to get hold of, you know as they are a really rare car!
Not forgetting that Reanult are tied in with Nissan and Dacia (both in the same chart) and might even supply the engines.
the k9k engine (1.5dci) has been the same bar the injection setup since 2001.. so it’s not a bad engine for nigh on 20 year old technology.
11th Mar 2019 6:54 am
Dan1720v
Member Since: 28 Mar 2018
Location: Street/Somerset
Posts: 176
lynalldiscovery wrote:
See now we can talk Eaton twin split or Roadranger and look really old
The Erf drivers took 5 galllons of oil with them on a Monday and used it all by Friday each week of the year, apparently the trick was to keep it just above the minimum as to high meant the crank webs swiped the oil and its lost quite a bit of power.
I would like to say I look back fondly, but in reality they were bags of carp!
Drove new generation Scania last night, I dont like Scanias at all but have to say what a tool, the most car like truck I have ever driven.
New gen Scania S are nice. Provided the cab stays attached
11th Mar 2019 6:56 am
robpenrose
Member Since: 12 Jan 2016
Location: Surrey / SW London
Posts: 2138
Dan1720v wrote:
lynalldiscovery wrote:
I wonder if its a simple as they make it out to be?
Im not being secptical but I cant believe a car whos engine is twice the size and weighs at least twice as much and auto can be cleaner than the frenchie?
For example theres Euro 6 and then theres the latest Euro6, will have to google as I cannot remember what its called!
The Renault is a 2017 model, the Disco a 2018 model, Im sure a 2018 Renault was really hard to get hold of, you know as they are a really rare car!
Not forgetting that Reanult are tied in with Nissan and Dacia (both in the same chart) and might even supply the engines.
the k9k engine (1.5dci) has been the same bar the injection setup since 2001.. so it’s not a bad engine for nigh on 20 year old technology.
The disco engine isn’t new either. It’s been in the D4 since 2010. Obviously the emissions stuff has been improved!
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11th Mar 2019 7:20 am
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we had six and one mech spent his entire working life keeping just them six truck engiens running, not the rest of the truck just the engines!
