Sharron condemned it ... so for anyone who can't remember what she looks like ...
4th May 2019 5:54 pm
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...and yet a 'real' woman athlete has been prevented from competing with other 'real' women athletes on the basis of a high testosterone level 21 year LR veteran > D2 GS 2003 > D3 S 2006 > D3 HSE 2009 > D4 HSE 2013 > D4 HSE 2015 > D5 HSE 2018 > DS HSE R-Dynamic P300e 2021
4th May 2019 5:57 pm
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I'll bet that weightlifters snatch is a real eye opener!! Mods:
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4th May 2019 6:08 pm
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DG wrote:
...and yet a 'real' woman athlete has been prevented from competing with other 'real' women athletes on the basis of a high testosterone level
I’ve gone round and round with this, I understand the advantage Semenya gains, but then is that any different to a tall basketball player or small jockey. When you read the history of what defines a woman, physical examination, X and Y chromosomes etc there is no easy answer.DS3 TDV6 HSE - Silver with Alpaca (old one) Gone
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4th May 2019 7:33 pm
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So by identifies as a woman does that mean that he/she still has a penis?
4th May 2019 7:37 pm
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Pelyma wrote:
DG wrote:
...and yet a 'real' woman athlete has been prevented from competing with other 'real' women athletes on the basis of a high testosterone level
I’ve gone round and round with this, I understand the advantage Semenya gains, but then is that any different to a tall basketball player or small jockey. When you read the history of what defines a woman, physical examination, X and Y chromosomes etc there is no easy answer.
Agree ...within any sport there is a spectrum of capability ...by contrast of this judgement should those athletes with less testosterone than average be given some sort of enhancement to even things up I think if she is biologically a woman then that's just tough on everyone else.21 year LR veteran > D2 GS 2003 > D3 S 2006 > D3 HSE 2009 > D4 HSE 2013 > D4 HSE 2015 > D5 HSE 2018 > DS HSE R-Dynamic P300e 2021
4th May 2019 7:43 pm
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There's a country mile difference between the pic posted above and this one;
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Caster is, so I've read, biologically more male than female but I don't know where you draw the line on what is, and what isn't, acceptable.Mods:
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4th May 2019 7:47 pm
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I would agree that if she’s physically female, then so what, but then I saw the reaction of other female athletes and it was utter despair that because of the heightened testosterone, they can’t get near her.
If she is a freak of nature, then a decision had to be made by the governing body and unfortunately it’s a Catch 22.
4th May 2019 8:16 pm
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How many other 'freaks of nature' are there ...Usain Bolt ?21 year LR veteran > D2 GS 2003 > D3 S 2006 > D3 HSE 2009 > D4 HSE 2013 > D4 HSE 2015 > D5 HSE 2018 > DS HSE R-Dynamic P300e 2021
4th May 2019 8:21 pm
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Google says she is still biologically a man.
4th May 2019 8:29 pm
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I did hear Google now classify themselves as God 21 year LR veteran > D2 GS 2003 > D3 S 2006 > D3 HSE 2009 > D4 HSE 2013 > D4 HSE 2015 > D5 HSE 2018 > DS HSE R-Dynamic P300e 2021
4th May 2019 8:42 pm
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DG wrote:
How many other 'freaks of nature' are there ...Usain Bolt ?
Lots he has very fast twitch muscles. I think we have to accept that top athletes are often freaks and as long as that hasn’t been surgically or chemically produced then they can compete.DS3 TDV6 HSE - Silver with Alpaca (old one) Gone
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4th May 2019 8:42 pm
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Hardware17 wrote:
Sharron condemned it ... so for anyone who can't remember what she looks like ...
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