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galwaygreen
 


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HOW IS HS2 GOING TO COPE

normal trains in trouble today so how is the hs2 going to cope..clearly not going to be able to go super fast...
  
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Something to do with metal expanding in the heat. And rails on a railway are metal. Good old Mr I.K.Brunell didn't have a problem with that. Just left a wee gap every so often. Then someone unknown decided to weld all the rails together to stop the "clackity-clack". And overhead wires that don't have any tensioning and sag when they expand!

Strange how the Forth Bridge is build of a very large amount of similar metal and doesn't buckle and fall over in the heat. Someone knew what they were doing when it was designed and we have lost that knowlege.

Not all is lost though, I see someone is painting railway points white to reduce the amount they heat up. Going to make them difficult to find in the snow!
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Does this happen often in hot countries (Or just the ones that are hot for 2 days a year Wink ) ?
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I think they use stressed steel but over here it’s too expensive Rolling Eyes

I could be talking utter rubbish, it has been known.
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Use steam trains no problems
  
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It is called CWR - Continuously Welded Rail - and comes down on CWR trains from Cumbria in approx 300m lengths if my memory serves me correctly.
It is laid and welded (dropped welds -thermite welding) and ground down to form a continuous rail without imperfections between the 2 rails.

The rails are then 'clipped' to the sleepers, but must only be clipped at certain air temperatures which allow expansion and contraction suited to the 'normal' british seasons, therefore the clipping takes place at different temperatures in different parts of the world more suited to their range of annual tempeartures.

This system produces a markedly superior ride, can handle higher speed trains and is much quieter and less susceptible to damage and failures.
I think many people have forgotten riding on jointed rails compared to the magic carpet ride on CWR.

We had record breaking temperatures and unfortunately there are is no grey areas with the laws of physics.
  
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https://www.networkrail.co.uk/stories/why-...n-britain/

Our rails are only designed to with stand temperatures up to 27c.
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Post #207150927th Jul 2019 6:19 am
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galwaygreen
 


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Overhead gear in trouble too
  
Post #207154827th Jul 2019 10:39 am
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