They are in Cradley B64 7RW, so much closer to you than "down south".
Good luck - let us know how you get on.
If you are determined to go with the £3k deal "down south", let us know with whom you are dealing & we may be able to help.
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Joe @ Oval hasn't done 2.7 rebuilds for a few years. It's not worth it due to the value of the D3s vs the effort they go through.
They don't just simply fit engines, they check and rebuild right down to the bare components - all new bearings, new lifters, guides, all injectors sent away and tested for flow rate and spray pattern, cranks, rods, pistons, flywheel and pulley are sent away and balanced as a complete set etc. The end result is a much more finely balanced and smoother running engine than you would buy new from JLR....
...but not for the 2.7, only for the 3.0 nowadays.
Just to clarify on this Kev, It's not so much the effort we go through in doing the work (we put the 100% effort in all our work), it's more a case of the cost of the work vs the value of the car. The rebuild (and any surcharge) costs are roughly the same for 2.7 or 3.0 engines. We stopped doing the 2.7 because I find it hard to justify presenting an quote for more than the value of the car. This is now becoming the same with early 3.0 engines.
Anybody that has ever phoned us for an enquiry gets the same response; "Until we stripped down the engine and carried out all the various other inspections, assume the worst case, but hope for the best. Is your car worth the worst case?". We leave it to the customer to decide what they want to do, unlike some places that say one thing and charge something else while holding the car hostage!!!Joe
29th Apr 2020 4:00 pm
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If you decide to send it to a reputable engine replacement company - key phrase is reputable, then try Shiply to move your car to them. I had a car collected from Lewis in Sussex and taken to Corsham in Wiltshire for less than £250. Excellent service.
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29th Apr 2020 5:38 pm
knwatkins
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OvalAutos wrote:
knwatkins wrote:
Joe @ Oval hasn't done 2.7 rebuilds for a few years. It's not worth it due to the value of the D3s vs the effort they go through.
They don't just simply fit engines, they check and rebuild right down to the bare components - all new bearings, new lifters, guides, all injectors sent away and tested for flow rate and spray pattern, cranks, rods, pistons, flywheel and pulley are sent away and balanced as a complete set etc. The end result is a much more finely balanced and smoother running engine than you would buy new from JLR....
...but not for the 2.7, only for the 3.0 nowadays.
Just to clarify on this Kev, It's not so much the effort we go through in doing the work (we put the 100% effort in all our work), it's more a case of the cost of the work vs the value of the car. The rebuild (and any surcharge) costs are roughly the same for 2.7 or 3.0 engines. We stopped doing the 2.7 because I find it hard to justify presenting an quote for more than the value of the car. This is now becoming the same with early 3.0 engines.
Anybody that has ever phoned us for an enquiry gets the same response; "Until we stripped down the engine and carried out all the various other inspections, assume the worst case, but hope for the best. Is your car worth the worst case?". We leave it to the customer to decide what they want to do, unlike some places that say one thing and charge something else while holding the car hostage!!!
Hi Joe, yes that's what I meant, the cost associated with your effort/work
I also appreciate what you are saying about the early 3.0 engines too. Mine is as early as you can get (Sept 2009) and although it was just about worth having it rebuilt by you last year, given the depreciation over the past 12 months, I think it would be a different outcome if I were to have the same issue today Kev
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29th Apr 2020 6:07 pm
OvalAutos
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Tell me about it Kev!
I don't like turning work down, but I think after this period of uncertainty we might see less L320 work because of the repair/value ratio and my reluctance to put even more debt on customers.
So the options are; sell as a non-runner, recon engine, break for spares or DIY. Whichever option, big hole in the wallet.Joe
30th Apr 2020 8:15 am
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It’s such an unfortunate circumstance that no matter how attached we are to our Disco’s - the repair bills (engine change mainly) vs the value of the vehicle makes it very hard to consider biting the bullet, no matter how attached you can be to your Discos..
This has made me understand one of the reasons Defenders hold their values so well, by staying simple and small engines/no air suspension and the lack of tech.Defender 110 2.4 TDCi Utility Station Wagon.
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30th Apr 2020 8:45 am
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Defenders aren't that simple anymore...
And an engine swap in one of them still runs into a £5k bill very easilyMy D3 Build Thread
Disco_Mikey- point taken...what about Freelander 2s; and what offers best value for money as a keeper?
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30th Apr 2020 9:35 am
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Freelander 2 is most reliable, and less likely to bankrupt you should anything go wrong
That said, anything that does go wrong tends to be fairly expensive...My D3 Build Thread
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Disco_Mikey wrote:
Defenders aren't that simple anymore...
And an engine swap in one of them still runs into a £5k bill very easily
I guess the difference in a defender is it’s worth replacing the engine for 5k if the vehicles is still worth 15k, for example
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30th Apr 2020 10:26 am
KostasA
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Disco_Mikey wrote:
Defenders aren't that simple anymore...
And an engine swap in one of them still runs into a £5k bill very easily
well if you spend 5k and get an LS engine + drivetrain on a defender is money well spend
30th Apr 2020 10:27 am
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Exactly- that’s another reason, you can re-coup money with the values of Defenders.
Although, this topic is slightly pointless in a way. We’re all enthusiasts, we wouldn’t be here otherwise..the versatility of the Disco’s and comfort trump a Defender.
I’m sure most of us would justify the cost of an engine, because we would know the Disco would be staying long term after the outlay.
You can pick another running Disco up for the cost of an engine swap done properly - but then you have all the unknowns your buying into and knowing you’ll end up spending on that one to get it up to standard.
It all comes down to ‘better the devil you know’ IME.Defender 110 2.4 TDCi Utility Station Wagon.
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30th Apr 2020 10:33 am
KostasA
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you are right on that one. i own both and truly i could never leave my D3. one plan i have in mind, when my engine goes, is to replace with the V8. i know some will say the consumption but i can live with that given what you get back.
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