The total retail price paid at the pump includes a significant amount of tax – 57.95p per litre in fuel duty and 20% VAT.
But the total proportion of tax we pay to the Treasury varies depending on the pump price. For instance, with fuel at 120p a litre at the pumps, 65% of the cost is tax. But at £1 a litre it rises to 75%, meaning 75p in every litre sold goes to for the Treasury.
Fuel duty raises more than £26bn a year, which together with VAT charged on fuel, vehicle tax and ‘showroom’ tax totals, means motorists contribute more than £40bn a year to the Government’s coffers.
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9th Jun 2021 2:14 am
gstuart
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Also saw this ref euro classifications , hope it may be of interest
The sixth and current incarnation of the Euro emissions standard was introduced on most new registrations in September 2015. For diesels, the permitted level of NOx has been slashed from 0.18g/km in Euro 5 to 0.08g/km.
A focus on diesel NOx was the direct result of studies connecting these emissions with respiratory problems.
To meet the new targets, some carmakers have introduced Selective Catalytic Reduction (SCR), in which a liquid-reductant agent is injected through a catalyst into the exhaust of a diesel vehicle. A chemical reaction converts the nitrogen oxide into harmless water and nitrogen, which are expelled through the exhaust pipe.
The alternative method of meeting Euro 6 standards is Exhaust Gas Recirculation (EGR). A portion of the exhaust gas is mixed with intake air to lower the burning temperature. The vehicle’s ECU controls the EGR in accordance with the engine load or speed.
The big news for Euro 5 was the introduction of particulate filters (DPFs) for diesel vehicles, along with lower limits across the board. For type approvals from September 2011 and new cars from January 2013, diesel vehicles were subject to a new limit on particulate numbers. DPFs capture 99% of all particulate matter and are fitted to every new diesel car. Cars meeting Euro 5 standards emit the equivalent of one grain of sand per kilometre driven.
Implementation date (new approvals): 1 January 2005
Implementation date (all new registrations): 1 January 2006
Euro 4 emissions standards (petrol)
CO: 1.0g/km
THC: 0.10g/km
NOx: 0.08g/km
Euro 4 emissions standards (diesel)
CO: 0.50g/km
HC + NOx: 0.30g/km
NOx: 0.25g/km
PM: 0.025g/km
Euro 3 (EC2000)
Implementation date (new approvals): 1 January 2000
Implementation date (all new registrations): 1 January 2001
Euro 3 split the hydrocarbons and nitrogen oxide limits for petrol and diesel engines, as well as adding a separate nitrogen oxide limit for diesel vehicles. The warm-up period was removed from the test procedure.
Euro 3 emissions standards (petrol)
CO: 2.3g/km
THC: 0.20g/km
NOx: 0.15g/km
Euro 3 emissions standards (diesel)
CO: 0.66g/km
HC + NOx: 0.56g/km
NOx: 0.50g/km
PM: 0.05g/km
In addition to these new tests, it’s been widely believed within the motoring world that the EU is planning to introduce a new Euro 7 emissions standard in the coming years.
However, in April 2019 the European Parliament and Council adopted new regulations setting CO2 emission performance standards for new passenger cars and vans which will start applying from 1 January 2020.
Unlike the previous Euro emissions standards, this regulation focuses solely on carbon emissions of new cars and vans, and includes a mechanism to incentivise the uptake of zero-emission vehicles.
It remains to be seen if, and when, the EU will implement a Euro 7 emissions standard with the same requirements as previous standards alongside this new regulation.
9th Jun 2021 2:21 am
G7jtk
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Earn £1. Take off 40% tax and some NI leaving, what, about 55p? Now buy 55p's worth of petrol. The government get 30p tax from that. Out of your £1, the government have got 75p and you've got half a litre of petrol. To burn that petrol in your car means another small fraction of one new pence in road tax and an even smaller amount in insurance premium tax but the money is all going in one direction!
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Cheapest petrol near me is currently 125.9 I know it's not considered "kind" to say no these days, but no. Just no, ok? And if it's not ok, still no.
9th Jun 2021 7:37 am
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I just fill up when it needs filling. If I'm somewhere I know I'm close to / passing a cheaper outlet then I'll make use of it, but diverting any distance is getting in to false economy territory. Unless chucking in 50+ litres, a penny difference will be quickly eaten by the distance to get to the cheap pump.
If you want cheap fuel then generally you're looking at supermarket outlets. I almost feel sorry for a local BP garage that's on a dual carriageway. Yes, it's going to be expensive because of location on a major road, but there 's a recently opened Sainsbury's fuel station about half a mile away. Anyone local will be going there or the Tesco slightly further away because they're 10p++ cheaper per litre. That makes a detour worthwhile for any decent quantity of fuel.Visiting from rrsport.co.uk
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9th Jun 2021 8:34 am
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Re: Fuel price rip off
gstuart wrote:
Well there’s a surprise , plus likewise of how the prices differ so much around the country
In fairness to the garages, they still have their outgoings to cover and with fewer litres of fuel sold because of lockdown reducing car use, that apparent profit increase won't have been noticed in their bank account. And whilst the % increase looks great, especially on the petrol, they actual amount of money they will have made will have almost certainly fallen massively during lockdown.
Having said that, the traffic levels have ramped up massively in a last few weeks so I guess they'll be making a few quid now.Visiting from rrsport.co.uk
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I just fill up when it needs filling. If I'm somewhere I know I'm close to / passing a cheaper outlet then I'll make use of it, but diverting any distance is getting in to false economy territory. Unless chucking in 50+ litres, a penny difference will be quickly eaten by the distance to get to the cheap pump.
If you want cheap fuel then generally you're looking at supermarket outlets. I almost feel sorry for a local BP garage that's on a dual carriageway. Yes, it's going to be expensive because of location on a major road, but there 's a recently opened Sainsbury's fuel station about half a mile away. Anyone local will be going there or the Tesco slightly further away because they're 10p++ cheaper per litre. That makes a detour worthwhile for any decent quantity of fuel.
Yup, I usually just fill up at the local indy Texaco when nipping to the local shop to buy local produce for local people. But as it's on a popular tourist route it's getting more difficult to get in there and, sensibly, they've hiked their prices to reap the increase in volume from tourist traffic to cover the loss of volume sales over the past 15 months.
So for the time being I'll switch to filling up at Morrisons in Weymouth when I pass it on my way home from a physio/pt session. 8p per litre difference on 60l once a week - soon adds up. That said, once the tourist season is over and the prices at the indy step closer to the supermarket again I'll go back to supporting them. If we don't, we'll lose these smaller rural garages and the shops that spring up alongside them, then we'll all have to trek 10 miles into the nearest town for fuel and weekly milk/veg shopping.I know it's not considered "kind" to say no these days, but no. Just no, ok? And if it's not ok, still no.
9th Jun 2021 9:11 am
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£1.33.9 at Shell yesterday.Richard
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9th Jun 2021 9:19 am
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We are at £1.27 at present, but even within a few miles it can vary greatlyJoined the BMWX5 45e group
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9th Jun 2021 9:31 am
LT
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I use Shell and don’t have to go out of my way to do so. It’s 132.9-133.9 at the moment.
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9th Jun 2021 9:32 am
pjm-84
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Shell for me. Actually pay 0.5p more than pump prices so I'm carbon neutral
9th Jun 2021 9:40 am
rrhool
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1/2p more to be carbon neutral? how does that work then?Richard
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9th Jun 2021 9:59 am
Oxford-boy
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Fuel duty raises £26bn a year...
How's that massive tax revenue hole going to be filled over the coming decades with the move to electric vehicles?
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9th Jun 2021 10:40 am
rrhool
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They'll have to put tax on electricity used for road miles. It's just the start, and they are easing everyone in to EVs with the the tax incentives now, it'll have to change!Richard
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