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Sean North
 


Member Since: 09 Mar 2016
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Scotland 2012 Discovery 4 3.0 SDV6 HSE Auto Keswick GreenDiscovery 4
Decisions - scrap or reconditioned engine ?

So my 2012 128K D4 decided to die within the space of 200 yards a couple of weeks ago, I've only had it 14 months - had an impeccable service history etc etc and it's in lovely condition.

It cost me about 18K - which is almost exactly what LR Inverness want to put a new engine in - they've simply charged me £160 to say they've found metal particles in the oil so it needs a new engine.

When I had it recovered to them (no one else that farnorth would even look at it) it ran, but a bit lumpy and wouldn't go forwards, but did reverse - so I'd convinced myself that it was GB related.

So, assuming I can get it to somewhere that'll put me a reconditioned engine in (I'll be ringing MMP in the morning) ....

... am I daft to be even considering spending £xyz on getting back on the road ?

I'm thinking 5k might get me a reconditioned engine, a bit of warranty and a few more years out of it.
  
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nigethecat
 


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Sorry to hear this and DM is definitely your best bet... if you have full LR history it's always worth asking the dealer to see if there's a possibility of a goodwill gesture from LR... you never know...
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Sean North
 


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Sadly full LR history is only upto about 90k

... and I've just noticed I'm paying £650/Yr road tax !

Might just get it recovered home and keep chickens in it.
  
Post #232414825th Jan 2023 6:26 pm
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Moo
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These guys have a good reputation

https://qp-online-ltd.business.site/?utm_s...m=referral

Wrong side of the country though.

There is also NWS:

https://nwsmotorservices.com/engine-models...and-rover/

Be very careful about some online engine refurbers - there are lots of horror stories about....
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Sean North
 


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Cheers Moo, I'm not totally ruling out sourcing an engine and doing it myself, but I vowed 5 years ago, having spent a few decades keeping all sorts of dependers and series landies running, including chassis stops, to never touch a spanner again.

So there's a few issues, I'm very north and across the water so even getting it home won't be a trivial task, and then there's the russian roulette of sourcing a good engine and then when it goes wrong again there's no one here that'll touch them Rolling Eyes

I'll see what MMP suggest, it's not the first D4 I've had and when they work there's very few better vehicles ....
  
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Disco_Mikey
 


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MMP suggest a factory recon lump

2 year nationwide parts and labour warranty

Not the cheapest option, but certainly cheaper than the £18k others are quoting Shocked
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Post #232415325th Jan 2023 7:24 pm
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qcnr
 


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Put a 3.8 TdV8 in it... Bow down
  
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Dimcandle
 


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Moo wrote:
These guys have a good reputation

https://qp-online-ltd.business.site/?utm_s...m=referral

Wrong side of the country though.

There is also NWS:

https://nwsmotorservices.com/engine-models...and-rover/

Be very careful about some online engine refurbers - there are lots of horror stories about....



NWS don't have the best of reputations

Not sure on the forum etiquette of criticising businesses so I'll leave it at that
  
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Hardware
 


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I thought I'd heard similar about NWS on here in the past. Have a search?
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https://www.disco3.co.uk/forum/nws-180426.html?highlight=NWS

Say no more......

Disco_Mikey makes a very good suggestion:-

Quote:
MMP suggest a factory recon lump

2 year nationwide parts and labour warranty

Not the cheapest option,


I would definitely talk to forum sponsors OvalAutos before making any decisions.

NJSS
  
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Hardware wrote:
I thought I'd heard similar about NWS on here in the past. Have a search?


Not Worth Shi Something
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waterbuoy
 


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To endorse what others have already said:

I had similar happen to my 180k mile D3 and had MMP fit a new JLR engine to it. Full description here:

https://www.disco3.co.uk/forum/chassis-sus...65489.html

Today the car has just passed its MOT, current mileage now 283k and rising (7k since November) so for me the investment was very worthwhile.
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