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evo smith
 


Member Since: 20 Mar 2010
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2011 Discovery 4 3.0 TDV6 HSE Auto Santorini BlackDiscovery 4
D4 3.0 TDV6 will not start. Advice needed

I have a 2010 D4 3.0TDV6 auto which has done 80K miles.
I was driving at approximately 30mph and the engine just stopped for no reason and would not re-start.
It would crank over but not fire up.
I read my fault codes and it came up with P0087 low fuel pressure code, along with another load of random codes..
My schrader valve was showing weak fuel pressure when checked.

I have since replaced my LPFP with a brand new VDO module.
I have now replaced by battery with a brand new Varta one.
My car now cranks over, but still will not fire up.
I have strong fuel pressure at the schrader valve.
I am not showing any fault codes now when I read them.
I can not find any fuses that have blown.

Any idea what to look for next would be appreciated.
  
Post #23384082nd Jun 2023 4:50 pm
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popsdosh
 


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United Kingdom 2016 Discovery 4 3.0 SDV6 Graphite LE Auto Corris GreyDiscovery 4

Take the oil filter out and check for metal in it ?
  
Post #23384453rd Jun 2023 5:56 am
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eightfoot
 


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Re: D4 3.0 TDV6 will not start. Advice needed

evo smith wrote:
I have a 2010 D4 3.0TDV6 auto which has done 80K miles.
I was driving at approximately 30mph and the engine just stopped for no reason and would not re-start.
It would crank over but not fire up.
I read my fault codes and it came up with P0087 low fuel pressure code, along with another load of random codes..
My schrader valve was showing weak fuel pressure when checked.

I have since replaced my LPFP with a brand new VDO module.
I have now replaced by battery with a brand new Varta one.
My car now cranks over, but still will not fire up.
I have strong fuel pressure at the schrader valve.
I am not showing any fault codes now when I read them.
I can not find any fuses that have blown.

Any idea what to look for next would be appreciated.


when was the last time the fuel pump belt was changed ? i would be checking to see if its snapped unfortunately there is no easy way to check so its a strip down or pay someone to do it for you
 please excuse any grammer/punctuation mistakes,i'm thick,thankyou
current vehicles 2005 d3 2013 d4 
 
Post #23384633rd Jun 2023 10:23 am
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evo smith
 


Member Since: 20 Mar 2010
Location: jersey, channel islands
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2011 Discovery 4 3.0 TDV6 HSE Auto Santorini BlackDiscovery 4

Cam belt kit, injector pump belt kit, pulleys water pump, fuel filter housing assembly were all changed 13th Feb this year by my trusted indie.

After doing a bit of online research here, checking over my service history, call to the local LR dealer who originally sold the car, etc, I'm thinking it could possibly be crank position sensor failure.

The VIN number falls within the LR re-call from many years ago, but it can not be confirmed if it was changed on the re-call. LR dealer has a recall document on file from 2013, but they can no longer open it up to see the content.

My local LR dealer need's to check with Land Rover UK on Monday to see if they have official confirmation.

As for the oil filter, I have not taken it off to check for any catastrophic failure yet. I'm praying its not.
It turns over freely without making any noise, it just does not fire up as it would normally.

Any further thoughts on the crank position sensor failure would be appreciated.
Kind regards
  
Post #23385113rd Jun 2023 5:15 pm
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Mastertech
 


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England 2010 Discovery 4 3.0 TDV6 HSE Auto Stornoway GreyDiscovery 4

What scan tool are you using? Can you read measured values? Does the high pressure fuel actual value meet the specified value?
  
Post #233919912th Jun 2023 10:30 am
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evo smith
 


Member Since: 20 Mar 2010
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2011 Discovery 4 3.0 TDV6 HSE Auto Santorini BlackDiscovery 4

@Mastertech, thank you for your reply.

Im using an AUTEL AP200 scan tool.
I think the Autel does capture measured values.

A friend is dropping off his all singing & dancing Snap On scan device later today for me to utilise.
What should the high pressure fuel value be to allow the injectors to work.

I'm also going to fit a new fuel filter as well, even though the current one has done 800 miles since all the belts were changed.
  
Post #233927013th Jun 2023 5:24 am
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adamlawrence
 


Member Since: 17 Nov 2013
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England 2011 Discovery 4 3.0 SDV6 XS Auto Fuji WhiteDiscovery 4

Hi, did you get to the bottom of this?
  
Post #236185812th Feb 2024 6:55 pm
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Fireburst
 


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England 2012 Discovery 4 3.0 SDV6 HSE Auto Orkney GreyDiscovery 4

I know this was originally posted several months ago but I recently had exactly the same issues as the original poster.
It started with the engine cutting out at a junction and restarting after several attempts, it then ran perfectly for about 3 weeks, then the engine cut out while driving, I was able to pull over and it started and ran perfectly for the rest of the day. It got to the point where it became impossible to start, the only message on the dash showed a red battery warning, the IID always showed no faults! I replaced the starter motor and earth straps and it started instantly, it then started the same problems again, I replaced the alternator and all was well again for one week then it became impossible to start!

I decided to try the IID again and it came up with no faults but after letting the engine turn over continuously for about 10 - 15 seconds it came up with crankshaft sensor fault!

After looking at changing the sensor I decided to book the car into a local Land Rover Indy, they confirmed from their diagnostic test the sensor was faulty and said it was a pig of a job to do!!

I am 76 years old and have never put a car into a garage for any fault, but looking at that job I think its time to consider handing the difficult jobs over to the professionals!

I have not got the car back yet so keeping my fingers crossed its fixed.
  
Post #236189913th Feb 2024 10:34 am
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evo smith
 


Member Since: 20 Mar 2010
Location: jersey, channel islands
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2011 Discovery 4 3.0 TDV6 HSE Auto Santorini BlackDiscovery 4

Sorry for the late reply.
I eventually got to the bottom of the problem.
My HP fuel pump on the engine failed catastrophically.
Required a new pump, fuel pump belt kit again, both fuel rails, 6 x injectors and various other bits.
It wasn't a cheap fix.
Fingers crossed this hasn't happened to your vehicle.
  
Post #236238718th Feb 2024 4:11 pm
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