Member Since: 05 Nov 2023
Location: North Lincolnshire
Posts: 74
Close shave
Driving to work Monday morning after a weekend of green laning, and the front left wheel disintegrated! Shearing all the bolts.
Luckily no one was hurt, except my bank balance to get highways England to remove the car; I was in the fast lane.
Not sure whether or not to buy another 20" and a new tyre, or bite the bullet and fit some 18"s with a 60 or 65 side profile.
Click image to enlarge
Click image to enlarge
Click image to enlarge
Click image to enlarge
n laning, and the front left wheel disintegrated!
18th Jun 2024 8:46 pm
Moo D3 Decade
Member Since: 13 Aug 2010
Location: UK
Posts: 14388
Genuine wheels?New Defender L663 110 SE (known as Noddy!)
Sold Volvo XC90 R-Design (known as Basil)
Sold - D4 HSE (Known as Gerty)
No longer the Old Buses original owner
231,000 miles and counting
05 S manual owned from March 2005
D4 Face lifted
Still original injectors and turbo
V8 Front brakes
BAS Remap, Allisport Intercooler and deCat
EGRs blanked
T-Max split charge
Hanibal Expeedition rack
Prospeed ladder
Duratrac tyres
IID BT
BAS FBH control
18th Jun 2024 9:04 pm
TheGreenMachine
Member Since: 05 Nov 2023
Location: North Lincolnshire
Posts: 74
Yup
Tyres were fitted by previous owner and are 275/45/20, could possibly be part of the problem.
18th Jun 2024 9:11 pm
1784
Member Since: 04 Sep 2009
Location: Almunge
Posts: 170
Wheel spacer studs made from chinesium sheared off and the wheel grinded against brake disc until it came apart?Defender 110 SE 2021, Tasman Blue
Discovery 1 V8 ES 1997, Epsom green
Discovery 3 V8 HSE 2006, Bonatti Grey
Range Rover V8 1983, Sierra Silver
18th Jun 2024 9:12 pm
TheGreenMachine
Member Since: 05 Nov 2023
Location: North Lincolnshire
Posts: 74
It's a possibility but they are Terrfirma, which are a trusted brand here in the UK.
18th Jun 2024 9:14 pm
KPTV8
Member Since: 05 Feb 2012
Location: Itinerant !! (Scotland/Donegal)
Posts: 187
Apologies if this is naive.
I've so often found wheel nuts tightnened HORRIBLY over ANYTHING LIKE a sensible torque.
Sometimes I've wondered do studs sometimes shear for this reason ?
18th Jun 2024 9:33 pm
DG Site Moderator
Member Since: 12 Dec 2005
Location: The Gaff
Posts: 50978
TheGreenMachine wrote:
Yup
Tyres were fitted by previous owner and are 275/45/20, could possibly be part of the problem.
Not sure they are OEM wheels tbh/ I don't recognise them.21 year LR veteran > D2 GS 2003 > D3 S 2006 > D3 HSE 2009 > D4 HSE 2013 > D4 HSE 2015 > D5 HSE 2018 > DS HSE R-Dynamic P300e 2021
19th Jun 2024 12:43 am
Gareth Site Moderator
Member Since: 07 Dec 2004
Location: Bramhall
Posts: 26774
I think they are the diamond cut version of the wheels my D4 had, so look genuine to me. Possibly a stone trapped in the calliper has cut through the rim first? Then the wheel split and carnage ensued! Luckily nobody hurt.
19th Jun 2024 6:46 am
RRSTDV8
Member Since: 07 Apr 2014
Location: Here
Posts: 13541
Is it not the Landmark alloy?
https://parts.jaguarlandroverclassic.com/vplaw0002-wheel.htmlVisiting from rrsport.co.uk
2012 RRS SDV6
2008 RRS TDV8
"When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die! You don't know who's children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they were always going to have to do from the very beginning: SIT DOWN AND TALK!"
19th Jun 2024 6:48 am
pjm-84
Member Since: 04 Oct 2016
Location: Hampshire
Posts: 2589
Are they spacers? Looks like sheared bolts and a few hung on, finally letting go with devastating consequences
19th Jun 2024 7:16 am
DSL Keeper of the wheelie bin
Member Since: 11 May 2006
Location: Off again! :-)
Posts: 73081
Member Since: 24 Sep 2023
Location: Highlands
Posts: 398
1784 wrote:
Wheel spacer studs made from chinesium sheared off and the wheel grinded against brake disc until it came apart?
That picture through the wheel certainly makes it look like the disc has ground through the wheel, and the spacer wheel studs have clearly sheared at some point, while the factory studs have remained in place.Previously:
2010 FL2 TD4e GS
‘93 Defender 110 200TDi CSW - still got this, non-runner on SORN.
‘87 Defender 90 4 cyl Petrol
‘83 110 CSW V8 - best ever!
Range Rover 2-door V8 (not sure of year - 4-speed box and vacuum diff switch)
Series III SWB Diesel
19th Jun 2024 8:36 am
pjm-84
Member Since: 04 Oct 2016
Location: Hampshire
Posts: 2589
Spacer.....uck.... whip those off quick
19th Jun 2024 9:00 am
Gareth Site Moderator
Member Since: 07 Dec 2004
Location: Bramhall
Posts: 26774
Another things to note. The remains of the sheared off wheel rim, shows a lot of wear and pitting on the tyre bead seating. Looks like the tyre was scrubbing on its seating.
19th Jun 2024 9:13 am
Nasher
Member Since: 07 Mar 2009
Location: Clanfield, North of Pompey - UK
Posts: 2813
pjm-84 wrote:
Spacer.....uck.... whip those off quick
My thoughts exactly.
can't specifically blame them on this, but looking at a car with a known weak spot in terms of front wheel bearings, why people think it's a good idea to fit them I don't know.Heaven doesn't want me, and hell is afraid I'll take over.
You cannot post new topics in this forum You cannot reply to topics in this forum You cannot edit your posts in this forum You cannot delete your posts in this forum You cannot vote in polls in this forum
Not sure they are OEM wheels tbh/ I don't recognise them.
