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bigfatsi
 


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One for the detailers...

I currently use Autoglym polish and 'rude' wax (it was cheap) but I'm thinking about upping my game a bit and buying a buffer to keep my vehicles in good shiny order. Is there a middle ground between the professional products and a 'hand job? Laughing

Ive seen the 'proper' buffers but they seem very pricy. I've even watched youtube videos of the more popular buffer brands, (sad I know) but I can't justify that level of investment for occasional use.

I've therefore been looking at 'cheaper' alternatives such as eBay item eBay Item No. 110364405497.

Would this be suitable for my needs? I'm thinking of just using the Meguiars 3 step range. Maybe a bit of clay action too! Whaddya think?

Thanks for you help,

Simon
 

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JKP is your man!

I have used meguairs and it is very good, I think JKP's products are a bit more professional and therefore probably give better results!

I am sure he will be along shortly Thumbs Up
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JKP is definitely your man, I purchased a kit from him and am over the moon with the results, hard work on the original clean and clay then 3 coats of wax and the Red mist, now I have purchased a foam gun and life is easy, just foam and wash with a two bucket and mitt, dry and mist, brilliant result. I think he will be at Kielder in May, first class service by post and he will give you all the info you require.
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That polisher listed on ebay has the potential to cause serious damage to your paint. It's a clone of the Makita polisher and with it being a rotary, unless you have experience of 'buffing' you can potentially burn the paint or if not used correctly inflict holograms which look pants on dark cars. Rotary machines can build up panel heat very quickly and if you use too aggressive polish you can remove a fair bit paint/clear coat. On painted plastics there are no second chances, too much heat and the paint blisters (ask me how I know Whistle )

Best machine to start off with is a Megs G220 orbital or the new Kestrel DA polisher

http://www.i4detailing.co.uk/acatalog/Kest...tml#aKDAS6

These don't generate the same amount of heat and are more forgiving. Combine that with decent pads and quality polish like 3m ultrafina or Menzerna final finish for a light cut that finishes down for a good quality finish.

If you only want to use them to apply products rather than machine polish then it's not worth it.

I can supply a kit for detailing your D3 as I have done for quite a few on here. Similar to the one on this thread.

http://www.disco3.co.uk/forum/topic29084.html

If you want anything specific drop me a PM. Thumbs Up
  
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bigfatsi
 


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Cheers jkp,

Sod it then. Think I'll stick with elbow grease.

Would you mind if I picked you brains on a couple of 'newbie' questions.

I've always used Autoglym red but recently bought the one for dark cars and modern paints. Is this any good/better or would something like Meguiars be better?

When it comes to waxes I've got no idea! Which would be best for a Tonga green by hand? Had a look on the Dodojuice website but there was too many options lol

Finally, are these spray detailers any good? From past experience the only stuff worth using had to be wiped on and buffed off. I've no experience of them but am a bit of a cynic!

Cheers for your help. Obviously I'll be buying it from yourself. Creep creep lol Bow down


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bigfatsi - I'd seriously consider buying the DA style polisher (such as the model JKP mentioned)

It really speeds up the detailing process, and gets you a more consistent result.

You use a selection of pads and products to polish, then apply you last step product, and buff off.

Well worth the money.

Also - on 'waxes' - you might want to look at sealant products rather than 'old skool' waxes.

Modern sealants give a deep shine on dark colours, and very long term protection (6 mths typical).

So you get the look you want, but only have to polish and apply the sealant twice a year! Thumbs Up

I have a black '03 911, and use the DA type polisher, and a sealant as the final product - no traditional waxes.

Keeps it looking sharp, and easy to clean.

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I have a black '03 911,


You lucky lucky Censored That looks fantastic Thumbs Up
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I've just ordered a Meguiars G220 polisher from here:

http://www.shinearama.co.uk/search.php?fcat=73

They've got the cheaper Kestrel one in stock too now - didn't have them when I ordered mine Big Cry
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goodfella wrote:
I have a black '03 911,


You lucky lucky Censored That looks fantastic Thumbs Up


Thanks Thumbs Up

Looked like Censored when I got it, as the original owner had used some local hand wash service, who had swirled things up nicely - the DA polisher and some work got it back to looking good.

That's the joy of dark coloured vehicles! Big Cry

Bearing that in mind, I went White for the Land Rovers Mr. Green
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cdodkin wrote:

Bearing that in mind, I went White for the Land Rovers Mr. Green

Come on....tell the truth...

You only bought white ones so that they'd make more contrast in the reflection shots of the Porsche Whistle Laughing

Looks very very nice - especially considering it must be nearly 6 years old Thumbs Up Thumbs Up

EDIT...ok - it's not a white LR in the photo, but still Embarassed
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PaulP wrote:
cdodkin wrote:

Bearing that in mind, I went White for the Land Rovers Mr. Green

Come on....tell the truth...

You only bought white ones so that they'd make more contrast in the reflection shots of the Porsche Whistle Laughing

Looks very very nice - especially considering it must be nearly 6 years old Thumbs Up Thumbs Up

EDIT...ok - it's not a white LR in the photo, but still Embarassed


You mean like this? Mr. Green

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