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SatNav weaknesses
Took the Disco down to Cornwall last week complete with 4-bike Atera Strada on the towbar. Very happy with it's performance on motorways & round lanes and pleased to have low ratio gears for the uphill hairpin into the cottage! 8)
This was the first time I'd given the SatNav a proper workout and found it to be trying to say the least:
1. You don't seem to be able to select a town - as in a town centre. If you've never been, how the hell do you know which street you want? [This is no problem with a TomTom.]
2. You can't update it with your preferred POIs; e.g. your (or rather your wife's) preferred supermarkets / motorway services. [This is no problem with a TomTom.]
3. Some route choices are...
...bizarre: (and yes, I have checked I haven't selected specific route preferences), taking you round the houses (actually going the opposite way to street signs at one point!) or down stupid-narrow lanes that run parallel to A-roads
...inconsistent: having missed a left-turn down a narrow lane I did a Uey and then it didn't tell me to right-turn down the lane but preferred the next turning down an A-road that it had ignored in the first place
4. The estimated journey time is all over the place on some trips; when I recently did SW London to Bournemouth, it over-estimated the journey by an hour and took about 45 minutes to correct it. In Cornwall I ignored a round-the-houses route and took a quick short-cut; it didn't change the estimated arrival time until we were nearly there. [Again, I found the TomTom to be amazingly accurate in its estimates and also constantly reassessing without the dramatic changes in the Disco]
Are these standard gripes, or am I doing something wrong?Andrew
12th Apr 2009 12:30 pm
matt_tdv6
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Ive used the Land Rover system a few times in borrowed Range Rovers and a D3 last sunday at 2am
I found it brilliant and it seemed very quick to update
I did notice its estimated time was a bit high but i think it calculates it at the speed limits
12th Apr 2009 1:32 pm
Andrew Hebron
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matt_tdv6 wrote:
I did notice its estimated time was a bit high but i think it calculates it at the speed limits
Fair point, but I am not talking about a 10% inacccuracy, I'm talking about 66%! Either I'm driving at 120 down the m'way when it was estimating 70 or I was doing 70 when it was estimating 42. Neither are that likely Maybe I need to play with the calibration?
I should add that there are plus points to the SatNav: screen size; junction count-down; split screen options. They all seem a bit secondary, though.Andrew
12th Apr 2009 2:00 pm
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Andrew, welcome to the the weird world of LR Satnav! I use a tomtom in mine but Mrs DSL's SE has LR system. Whilst my tomtom took me straight to the RV point on the Oct Tunisian trip, the LR system took one car there via a football field!
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12th Apr 2009 2:10 pm
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They are the work of the Devil " Tw t Navs,
Bring back Maps and arguments with SWMSBO, or just use GPS and Ordnance survey after planning the route. at least you can see what is around you.
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12th Apr 2009 2:11 pm
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Anyway, I've figured out everyone is using Tw at Nav, so if you get the route set up then totally ignore it you won't get stuck in a traffic jam cos everyone else will be on the other route. Club Pie n Pea
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12th Apr 2009 2:14 pm
Andrew Hebron
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Willy Eckerslike wrote:
just use GPS and Ordnance survey after planning the route. at least you can see what is around you.
I've got no probs using maps but if the SatNav works, it gives the navigator some time off. In the end, we just used maps and the SatNav screen as a GPS. I just don't understand how LR let their software be so second-rate.Andrew
12th Apr 2009 2:44 pm
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You sound like a bit of a Luddite there Willy
What you need is a Sat Nav that says things like "you should have turned there", "I told you to go right", "Well if you wasn't driving so fast" and accepts voice input commands of things like, " you have the map upside down", "we are on the other page" and "i am sure you said left". And an Enable / Disable argument mode would be good too.
12th Apr 2009 4:07 pm
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I've fast come to conclusion that when everyone else has a sat-nav it'll be a advantage not to have one!
Less queuing with the chavs and you'll actually be able to develop those long lost male navigation skills.
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12th Apr 2009 4:16 pm
London Lad
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@ Andrew Hebron
The LR nav in my 08.5 D3 is exactly the same as yours, useless.
I even bought the latest map DVD to see if it would be any better, its not
I use my old TomTom now and its far better..
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12th Apr 2009 5:02 pm
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if I have the oportunity I always review where I'm going beforehand on a paper map or (if I have internet available) google earth / maps.live.com - these are great for identifying key junctions and buildings where you headedSteve N | 21MY Defender | 08MY Discovery 3 (history) | 06MY Discovery 3 (ancient history)
12th Apr 2009 5:33 pm
Andrew Hebron
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Don't suppose it's possible to "drive" the LR screen from a TomTom?Andrew
12th Apr 2009 5:45 pm
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A guy called Wiggs will be along in a minute, he will know .
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12th Apr 2009 5:58 pm
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To set the satnav to take you to the centre of a town:
Navigation -> Set Destination -> Points of Interest -> Categories -> Etc -> Town Centre. When you select Town Centre the screen will return up one level and allow you to enter the town name.
It's so counter-intuitive that it beggars belief, but it can be done. Goodness knows where it will actually take you; I've never had the courage to try it out.
12th Apr 2009 6:02 pm
Andrew Hebron
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NJF wrote:
To set the satnav to take you to the centre of a town...
Fab, thanks. Sounds straight-forward
NJF wrote:
I've never had the courage to try it out.
I'll let you know! Andrew
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