marshy 1
Member Since: 10 Jul 2009
Location: northumberland
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hi all new to site,what ecu remap or chip is best for 05 td6,how much and where from.
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 10th Jul 2009 7:32 pm |
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grzesiul
Member Since: 11 May 2008
Location: UK
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B.A.S mate gives you nice remaper and wicked map
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| 10th Jul 2009 7:35 pm |
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SJR
Member Since: 09 Aug 2006
Location: East Manchester
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See
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here
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lots of satisfied customers of each type, all down to personal choice which one you go for! 
If you want to trawl through the endless discussion on here regarding remaps, try a search on +remap, +engine +tuning. Whichever you choose the consensus seems to be that a ecu remap is very much preferable and better for the car than a plug in box type of tune I believe that every human has a finite number of heart-beats. I don't intend to waste any of mine running around doing exercises.
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| 10th Jul 2009 7:39 pm |
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MacLeod 313
Member Since: 18 Apr 2008
Location: away
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Hi there and welcome to the forum There are a few site sponsors on this, and although having one of them fitted by a sponsor I can tell you personally they bring the D3 alive.
Mine is removable/programable by myself cos I get a box to change from Standard/Enjoy mode. Economy goes up if driven sensibly too.
If you contact my supplier, I think you will find him at the LR shows.
Others highly recommended is TorQue Tune, personally tried this one too, and available from 10forCash, drop him an email.
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| 10th Jul 2009 7:39 pm |
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Renton
Member Since: 13 Jan 2009
Location: Somewhere in the middle
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 Sorry 
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| 10th Jul 2009 9:16 pm |
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SJR
Member Since: 09 Aug 2006
Location: East Manchester
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Are they a site sponsor  I believe that every human has a finite number of heart-beats. I don't intend to waste any of mine running around doing exercises.
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| 10th Jul 2009 9:17 pm |
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Japseroony
Member Since: 11 Feb 2008
Location: North East
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Bell Autos is the only place to go these days.
He offeres a switchable re-map for not much more than a standard re-map and this box can then be used on your next vehicle (assuming the engine can be re-mapped of course) providing you have set your old vehicle back to standard.
He can do all of this without the need to go to his place as he will send you the box, you then read your ECU via the box, send the file to him via email and he sends the file back with the new re-map on so you then re-program the ECU yourself. It takes about 3 - 4 mins but once done will take about 2 mins to go from standard to new tune and the same back again 
Had my HSE done on Sat and what a difference it makes, smoother, more usable power and much better on the motorway when overtaking etc. He even enabled my Sat Nav on the move for a very reasonable price and up-dated the system with the new software
Pete will be at Billing from Wed to Sunday this week offering his services or call him on 0871 2884656.
Japseroony. "UNDERSTEER" ---is when you hit the fence with the front of the car.
"OVERSTEER" ------is when you hit the fence with the rear of the car.
"HORSEPOWER" -is how fast you hit the fence.
"TORQUE" ------------is how far you take the fence with you.
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| 13th Jul 2009 11:59 am |
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MacLeod 313
Member Since: 18 Apr 2008
Location: away
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I agree the Pete Bell supplies a great product, I have it too. BUT an impartial view I beleive that Torque Tune from TFC is just as good, and a few have used Turbo Technics. In the past I tried all 3 before I made my choice and went Bell Auto's, so that's my advice, find a D3 that has been tuned or remapped, then make your choice
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| 13th Jul 2009 1:03 pm |
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Japseroony
Member Since: 11 Feb 2008
Location: North East
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Unnecessary quote removed
Fully agree with looking around for a good deal and finding out who is who with regards to re-mapping but there are lots of folk doing this but not doing the job properly/correctly 
Some folk use a copied re-map and sell it on as their own or put it onto the wrong version of the car such as on Disco 2's/Defender TD5's etc. LR went trhough different versions of the ECU on the TD5's and both required different settings (even on a standard map) but some folk are selling the old ECU maps and putting them on newer version ECU's!!!
Others take the credit for re-mapping when they are using someone elses equipment and brand it theirs until a problem arises
I am sure these are not the only example's but one's that are probably best known.
Also, why is is that when anyone has a problem with a re-map they usually ask Pete Bell for advice and I mean the person that did the re-map as well as the customer themselves?
There are lots of people out there buying equipment and offering re-maps/system upgrades that dont know what they are doing so best stick to someone that does, IMHO "UNDERSTEER" ---is when you hit the fence with the front of the car.
"OVERSTEER" ------is when you hit the fence with the rear of the car.
"HORSEPOWER" -is how fast you hit the fence.
"TORQUE" ------------is how far you take the fence with you.
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| 20th Jul 2009 2:34 pm |
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SJR
Member Since: 09 Aug 2006
Location: East Manchester
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I think you need to qualify that statement Japseroony. Are you implying that only Pete Bell can be trusted and is qualified or do you simply have no knowledge of the other forum sponsors TorqTune and Turbochip on which to base your claim and judge accordingly.  I believe that every human has a finite number of heart-beats. I don't intend to waste any of mine running around doing exercises.
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| 20th Jul 2009 2:56 pm |
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DG
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Member Since: 12 Dec 2005
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There are a number of highly respected sponsors offering tunes, all of which are very experienced ...the outcome will be as much of a muchness for you to notice - the decision is yours  21 year LR veteran > D2 GS 2003 > D3 S 2006 > D3 HSE 2009 > D4 HSE 2013 > D4 HSE 2015 > D5 HSE 2018 > DS HSE R-Dynamic P300e 2021
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| 20th Jul 2009 2:58 pm |
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Japseroony
Member Since: 11 Feb 2008
Location: North East
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SJR wrote:I think you need to qualify that statement Japseroony. Are you implying that only Pete Bell can be trusted and is qualified or do you simply have no knowledge of the other forum sponsors TorqTune and Turbochip on which to base your claim and judge accordingly.
Cool your breaks there SJR, I never mentioned in my post anything against TorqTune or Turbochip other than I agreed with MacLeod about shopping around and gaining an understanding of how the re-maps/chip systems work
I think we all agree that re-maps are better than chips but it all depends on budget and what you want from your vehicle.
A lot of sellers use a generic tune from a pre loaded system which in its self is not a bad thing as LR have many thousands of vehicles on the road with a pre loaded ECU But is it not better to have a system designed for your own vehicle taking into account the age, mileage and how you drive it etc.
This is why on one vehicle after it is re-mapped/chipped using a pre-programed generic system it will smoke when the same re-map/chip on another vehicle won't.
Also, BAS are really the only people offering the switchable unit correctly as the others are offering the same system using a generic tune "UNDERSTEER" ---is when you hit the fence with the front of the car.
"OVERSTEER" ------is when you hit the fence with the rear of the car.
"HORSEPOWER" -is how fast you hit the fence.
"TORQUE" ------------is how far you take the fence with you.
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| 20th Jul 2009 3:26 pm |
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SJR
Member Since: 09 Aug 2006
Location: East Manchester
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And your support of BAS (who i have no issue with by the way - i recognise their expertise and have suggested them to other forum users on occasions) should be qualified by the fact that based on one of your previous posts, it cannot be deemed to be unbiased
From another thread
Japseroony wrote:
I take it your talking about Pete Bell? If so sorry for posting this again as I did look to see if he had posted it but could not find it.
Just for reference its a joint project with Bell Autos and work mates, Cheviot 4x4 and myself
I believe that every human has a finite number of heart-beats. I don't intend to waste any of mine running around doing exercises.
Buzz Aldrin (1930 -
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| 20th Jul 2009 3:35 pm |
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Willy Eckerslike
Member Since: 12 Jan 2009
Location: N Yorks
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Japserroony
Do you have experience of TorqTune or Turbochip, have you used their services on a D3  Do you know wether they download to the ECU or install a chip Club Pie n Pea
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| 20th Jul 2009 3:37 pm |
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Japseroony
Member Since: 11 Feb 2008
Location: North East
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SJR wrote:And your support of BAS (who i have no issue with by the way - i recognise their expertise and have suggested them to other forum users on occasions) should be qualified by the fact that based on one of your previous posts, it cannot be deemed to be unbiased
From another thread
Japseroony wrote:
I take it your talking about Pete Bell? If so sorry for posting this again as I did look to see if he had posted it but could not find it.
Just for reference its a joint project with Bell Autos and work mates, Cheviot 4x4 and myself
Explain that comment
Just because I am building a vehicle with BAS and Cheviot does not make my comments biased - just accurate
Also, I have had dealings with most of the companies offering re-maps/chips which is why I have a reasonable amount of knowledge in this area
Finally, why do you think I am going to BAS for the TDV8 build
Oh yes - its becasue he has the knowledge to do it "UNDERSTEER" ---is when you hit the fence with the front of the car.
"OVERSTEER" ------is when you hit the fence with the rear of the car.
"HORSEPOWER" -is how fast you hit the fence.
"TORQUE" ------------is how far you take the fence with you.
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| 20th Jul 2009 3:41 pm |
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