Member Since: 04 Jan 2009
Location: Essex
Posts: 193
D4 Gearbox failure
A neighbour of mine has recently taken delivery of a D4 HSE. The auto box has developed a fault (200 miles) and needs replacing. He has no idea how long this will take but has been lent a 16000 mile RR Vogue (which he hates) so at leased they have looked after him, transport wise. My reasons for posting this are 1. To alert new or potential owners of this problem and 2. Is it a one off or are other D4 owners having gearbox problems?
Apart from this issue he told me he is very pleased with the D4
8th Oct 2009 9:44 am
MartinR
Member Since: 27 Jan 2008
Location: Oxon
Posts: 708
Any more details on the fault?
8th Oct 2009 9:46 am
bobic
Member Since: 02 Mar 2008
Location: Cork
Posts: 133
We had the auto box fail in our D3 after collecting it (brand new) from the dealer, about 10 miles
Apparently it was assembled incorrectly. Took 2 weeks for delivery and fitment of new box and has been perfect since.
8th Oct 2009 11:25 am
mack1979
Member Since: 01 Dec 2008
Location: Buckinghamshire
Posts: 70
This is the sort of thing which is why you NEVER buy a car within 6 months of it first being released (and I quote from a senior engineer of many years at Ford). Basically the first 6 month's cars are test vehicles (in fact even could be pre-production or production-line test vehicles updated for any fixes they need to apply.
he told me how when the first mondeo's came down the line the air-con sensor which has a little motor to draw in air for it to test rattled, so they grabbed laccy-bands off the secretary's desk. The first 3 month's cars all had this temporary fix on them until the redesigned fitting was tooled.
8th Oct 2009 12:18 pm
highbayrack
Member Since: 09 Jul 2008
Location: Northamptonshire
Posts: 2776
Blimmey, she must have had a big desk
8th Oct 2009 12:25 pm
mack1979
Member Since: 01 Dec 2008
Location: Buckinghamshire
Posts: 70
8th Oct 2009 12:26 pm
Mounty
Member Since: 08 Mar 2007
Location: Near Basel
Posts: 762
mack1979 wrote:
This is the sort of thing which is why you NEVER buy a car within 6 months of it first being released (and I quote from a senior engineer of many years at Ford). Basically the first 6 month's cars are test vehicles (in fact even could be pre-production or production-line test vehicles updated for any fixes they need to apply.
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So it is. Had a D3 V8 from the first production. Had all the faults you see in the GTR listed. Some of them were listed after I first found them ont car.Daniel
Gotta agree, I know some horror stories on new models, give it 6 months
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8th Oct 2009 7:54 pm
roverdrive
Member Since: 08 Oct 2009
Location: Wirral
Posts: 181
Would like to know what the fault was, especially as my new D3 has a rather annoying noise at idle
8th Oct 2009 7:59 pm
Winger Site Moderator
Member Since: 15 Feb 2005
Location: UK
Posts: 3428
CG wrote:
Gotta agree, I know some horror stories on new models, give it 6 months
I don't think that the D4 can be compared to an entirely new model; it isn't. Much is new, but even more much is the same. The pioneers were those who bought in 2004..........not 2009.
The subject of this thread relates to a gearbox that is essentially the same box as the D3. You will need to wait a couple of years before the D4 gets the new ZF box.
That said, much of the electronics are new, and there are clearly teething problems.
It true I am referring to new models, on facelift s the OEM's try to put things right.
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8th Oct 2009 8:58 pm
promitheus
Member Since: 04 Jul 2009
Location: Afidnes, Greece
Posts: 572
Winger wrote:
...You will need to wait a couple of years before the D4 gets the new ZF box...
I thought that:
...'the upgraded ZF6HP28 Automatic Transmission is fitted as standard to 3.0 TDV6 and 5.0 SC derivatives (2.7 TDV6 and TDV8 carry-over existing gearboxes)'... [quoted from the D4 product brief]
Winger can you shed some light on this please...
8th Oct 2009 9:50 pm
Winger Site Moderator
Member Since: 15 Feb 2005
Location: UK
Posts: 3428
Something may get lost in translation, but upgraded and new are rather different things. The D4 MY10 has an upgraded box.......something newer is in the offing further down the road.
8th Oct 2009 10:05 pm
promitheus
Member Since: 04 Jul 2009
Location: Afidnes, Greece
Posts: 572
ok mate sound and clear now, thanks! 8)
8th Oct 2009 10:27 pm
Calcul@tor
Member Since: 08 Mar 2006
Location: Middle England!
Posts: 810
Winger wrote:
......something newer is in the offing further down the road.
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