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edwin starr

Member Since: 08 Apr 2010
Location: Leicestershire
Posts: 18

2010 Discovery 4 3.0 TDV6 HSE Auto Santorini Black

DIY Fitting RSE in Disco 4 HSE

I want to fit RSE screens into my Discovery 4 HSE.
I have purchased the correct screens and been to my local LR parts dealer to compile a list of parts I will need to complete the job.
He tells me that the headrest cable that plugs into the screen and goes down to the bottom of the seat will plug into an excisting loom under the seat.
Another LR technician has told me the loom would not be in place under the seat as the vehicle was not ordered with HSE.
Has anyone had any success with fitting the factory fitted RSE themselves.
Is this just a plug and paly Item?

8th Apr 2010 8:26 pm

wiggs

Member Since: 03 Sep 2006
Location: Manchester
Posts: 14372

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I very much doubt it will be plug and play .

Normally stuff like that will require wiring of some discription .You will also have to enable the RSE in the car CCF file ...which the dealers cant do on a D3 ..so very much doubt they can do it on the D4 either . G4 Gone ...but not forgotten

8th Apr 2010 8:34 pm

tjp74

Member Since: 10 Feb 2010
Location: Seattle
Posts: 59

you and I need to hook up. I've been trying to do this very same thing and I thought I am the only one doing this. I've a factory documentation on all the componets needed and connector pin description.

So far I bought two LCD screens, remote, headphone and DVD changer, all new off ebay for far less than list price which makes this retrofit ecomically sense. I still need to buy main RES ECU, door switch, center A/V input panel and cables and then some how figure out a way to mount the LCD screen, externally with custom made enclusure or get the original headrest designed for RES system (probably $$$ from dealer)

There will be no wirings so you need to either buy all factory wirings and/or custom make them. Looking at the diagram I have it will be timing consuming but won't be too hard.

All components plugs into the main RES ecu which then connects to the front head unit and amplifier.

Now the only thing I am concerned about is that if the head unit will recognize the RES system and automatically enable it or I have to hook up a computer like FAULT MATE and edit the vehicle configuration file. From above post, it sounds like FAULTMATE MSV is only option.

If I go into the dignostic mode in my navigation system it shows that RES is "not installed". And obviously you don't see "REAR ENTERTAINMENT SYSTEM" button on main manu. I was hoping it will be automatically recognized but I guess not.

The FAULT MATE is $1500 device that let you edit the vehicle configuration file enabling or disabling certain features of the car. Since I am in USA I don't see anyone around me who has this so it will be a big expense for me just to do this. I wish I can borrow or somehow send my main ECU to some of you guys in UK who has this and could mount it in their car and edit the file for me. I know it's a wild dream and risk of currupting the file or risk of loosing it in mail. Then I am

-ed.

Due to this issue I am currently in hold mode. If you are talking to your dealer, may be you can find this out for us? My dealer is not helpful and thinks I am crazy to do this and won't touch my car because it will be changing the factory configuration. TJ
2010 LR4 HSE Lux Plus White/Ebony <=Sold 2012
2000 Discovery II SE7 <=Sold 2011
2010 Prius w/Solar Roof <=Sold 2011

8th Apr 2010 9:06 pm

edwin starr

Member Since: 08 Apr 2010
Location: Leicestershire
Posts: 18

Re: DIY Fitting RSE in Disco 4 HSE

edwin starr wrote:
I want to fit RSE screens into my Discovery 4 HSE.
I have purchased the correct screens and been to my local LR parts dealer to compile a list of parts I will need to complete the job.
He tells me that the headrest cable that plugs into the screen and goes down to the bottom of the seat will plug into an excisting loom under the seat.
Another LR technician has told me the loom would not be in place under the seat as the vehicle was not ordered with HSE.
Has anyone had any success with fitting the factory fitted RSE themselves.
Is this just a plug and paly Item?

I have seen on this forum that a member has been able to retro fit a RSE to his disco 3 and enable the touch screen to work

8th Apr 2010 9:59 pm

wiggs

Member Since: 03 Sep 2006
Location: Manchester
Posts: 14372

Yes it can be done ...i enabled it for him .

What i said was the dealer cant enable it ....so i would be cautious of what they tell you being as they cant have ever fitted one !! G4 Gone ...but not forgotten

8th Apr 2010 10:04 pm

DingMark

Member Since: 14 Sep 2007
Location: Perth Oz or Erbil, Iraq
Posts: 388

2010 Discovery 4 3.0 TDV6 HSE Auto Ipanema Sand

Edwin,

For probably less than the cost of a Fault Mate (note: I will be ordering one before going "out bush" once my D4 arrives, so I'm not bagging them!), you could fly Wiggs in for the day and have him do the tricky bits

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9th Apr 2010 3:01 am

tjp74

Member Since: 10 Feb 2010
Location: Seattle
Posts: 59

So who did it? Besides enabling it using a faultmate, I could use some help or guidelines on wiring the whole thing. TJ
2010 LR4 HSE Lux Plus White/Ebony <=Sold 2012
2000 Discovery II SE7 <=Sold 2011
2010 Prius w/Solar Roof <=Sold 2011

9th Apr 2010 7:43 am

tjp74

Member Since: 10 Feb 2010
Location: Seattle
Posts: 59

Ok foumd the guy anong with his installation guide. Looks like my biggest challenge is, as I feared, finding a way to edit cinfiguration file without spending $1500 on faultmate. Can I buy it and resell it? TJ
2010 LR4 HSE Lux Plus White/Ebony <=Sold 2012
2000 Discovery II SE7 <=Sold 2011
2010 Prius w/Solar Roof <=Sold 2011

9th Apr 2010 8:42 am

Ajay(UK)

Member Since: 07 Apr 2009
Location: Arundel, West Sussex
Posts: 316

2014 Discovery 4 3.0 SDV6 HSE Lux Auto Firenze Red

Guys I am happy to answer any questions you may have but just in case you haven't read the details of my retrofit the thread and link to my guide is here:

http://www.disco3.co.uk/forum/topic48869.html

I have checked Microcat and it appears that the parts required for a D4 are the same as used on the D3 so picking up the necessary components via a "trusted" auction site should be straight forward

regardless of which side of the Atlantic you are, but my research tells me that in the USA you pay a heavy premium for Land Rover ICE parts

A region 1 DVD changer recently sold here in the UK for Â£75

I rekon thats less than $100

I always tell people to do your research properly, set your budget, be patient and eventually the right items will turn up at a fair price.

As for the wiring, no amount of research, even with the help of TLO could we find or identify part numbers for "just" the necessary RSE cables that run in the main ICE navigation loom so I'm afraid pulling them from a wrecked Sport or D3 is really the only option at present

Edwin: I really dont believe the necessary cables will be in your car as Land Rover have different wiring looms with different part numbers for each option and configuration

If you want to check then you need to remove the rear right hand quarter panel and look for any of the cables as shown in my guide but I really think you would be wasting your time.

The last and probably the most significant problem for "State side" retrofit in either D3 or D4 is you dont have a "Wiggs" with a faultmate

When I connected the RSE module for the first time I too hoped that maybe the system would recognise the kit and switch on the home screen menus but it doesn't

In the diagnostic menu it does show up under the video inputs but not in the main list of components so YOU NEED THE CCF CHANGED to get the correct menus on the home screen

Even here in the UK I am not sure if anyone has a faultmate licence for a D4 yet or even if the kit exists yet? Try asking BBS SPY

Sorry I cant be more positive at present but in time I am sure you will also be able to make this happen

Regards,
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9th Apr 2010 10:11 am

edwin starr

Member Since: 08 Apr 2010
Location: Leicestershire
Posts: 18

Re: DIY Fitting RSE in Disco 4 HSE

Cheers for the advice Andy.
I have downloaded your guide, which I am sure will come in usefull in this project.
I have been compyling the hardware from said auction site, and am at the stage of ordering the headrest frames with the wireing and the DVD bracket in from my LR parts dealer.
When they arrive I will be fitting these items so will be removing trim etc to expose any (Probabley none) cabling.
I will keep Disco.co.uk posted

9th Apr 2010 10:33 am

wiggs

Member Since: 03 Sep 2006
Location: Manchester
Posts: 14372

Ajay(UK) wrote:
Even here in the UK I am not sure if anyone has a faultmate licence for a D4 yet or even if the kit exists yet? Try asking BBS SPY Andy.

Pete at BAS (site sponser ) has the D4 software ...full licence .

I have not bothered yet as i cant test anything first ( have a D3 ) and there are not enough D4's about to justify the cost (at the moment ) G4 Gone ...but not forgotten

9th Apr 2010 11:42 am

tjp74

Member Since: 10 Feb 2010
Location: Seattle
Posts: 59

Yes, it's hard to find these parts on state side but I do have access to UK auction site so I was able to pickup a pair of new LCD screens and new remote control for not much. It was the DVD changer that was most expensive at $320 but it was a brand new one so it's not too bad.

Can someone with microcat comfirm that main RES ECU for D4 is same as one in D3 and other RRS and FFRR? I don't have an access to microcat yet but some of part numbers I have is that there are more then 1 part number for the ECU depending on model year.

Due to more favorable exchange ratio of UKP vs USD, faultmate MSV2 doesn't seem too out of reach now, just under $1200. But still too expensive for just 5 minutes of usage. if BBS allows resale of this device I might just buy it, use it and resell it with significant discount. Anyone interested? Some of car clubs buy these expensive special tools and rents them to members for fees. I wish we can do that...

Ajay(UK): your written up will come in very handy and your work has been a great inspiration. As I said I was kind of in a holding mode and debating if I should just give up. This is what I needed to get this going again. TJ
2010 LR4 HSE Lux Plus White/Ebony <=Sold 2012
2000 Discovery II SE7 <=Sold 2011
2010 Prius w/Solar Roof <=Sold 2011

10th Apr 2010 4:34 pm

Ajay(UK)

Member Since: 07 Apr 2009
Location: Arundel, West Sussex
Posts: 316

tjp74 wrote:

Can someone with microcat comfirm that main RES ECU for D4 is same as one in D3 and other RRS and FFRR? I don't have an access to microcat yet but some of part numbers I have is that there are more then 1 part number for the ECU depending on model year.

Starting with the oldest first the part numbers for the Rear Screen Entertainment Module are as follows:

D4 + RRS (10+) = LR017366
D3 = LR01130, YIL500080
RRS(05-09) = YIL000053, YIL000054, LR011330, YIL500080
FFRR (05-09) = YIL000052, YIL000053, YIL000054, LR01130, YIL500080

Mine is a YIL000053 taken from a 2006 RRS.

As the module performs the same function on each car I doubt it really matters which one you use as they should be the same

but this is just my "humble" opinion

Andy. 2022MY Defender 110 D250 HSE X Dynamic, Gondwana with options!
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Gone: 2008 Disco 3 HSE, Hybrid Tv + Retro-fit RSE System & DVD
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10th Apr 2010 6:31 pm

Russell

Member Since: 23 Aug 2007
Location: Kent
Posts: 10564

OK
I am now also on the hunt for parts to do this to my D4, I know I need to source wiring but what other componets do I need, 2x headrest monitors/screens, DVD player and bracket, control module and aux panel, what other parts? MY17 D5 1st Edition Namib Orange
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10th Apr 2010 9:48 pm

edwin starr

Member Since: 08 Apr 2010
Location: Leicestershire
Posts: 18

Re: DIY Fitting RSE in Disco 4 HSE

Part Number for Head rest in premium ebony leather LR016673
Black plastic cowl for rear of headrest HKK500030PVJ
Wiring Frame (Headrest posts with cabling in) LR020057
Housing for DVD player HKK500020

The correct DVD player in the Disco 4 is XQE500600 Due to the fact that this is around Â£750 I think everyone attempting this project will be looking on the auction website for a suitable alternative.

When I have all of my components, before going to the breakers yard I am going to look into buying the correct terminals (Hopefully RS components or Maplins may stock them) and make up my own wiring looms.

11th Apr 2010 8:53 am