Member Since: 14 Jul 2012
Location: surrey
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Wiggs
Am presuming that theres no way to incorporate music streaming by the use of a later module? Been looking into options in the fatty as its cdc is u/s
22nd Jan 2017 1:26 pm
wiggs
Member Since: 03 Sep 2006
Location: Manchester
Posts: 14372
Unfortunately not ... there is no software in the car to make it workG4 Gone ...but not forgotten
22nd Jan 2017 1:44 pm
jonnyboy54321
Member Since: 14 Jul 2012
Location: surrey
Posts: 121
I thought that was likely the case as it hadnt been mentioned elsewhere. Thanks wiggs.
Does the d4 module really improve the call quality?
23rd Jan 2017 7:18 am
rovervirus
Member Since: 31 Oct 2012
Location: behind the sun
Posts: 92
hey guys,
sorry for jumping into this thread, but I am running out of ideas:
since I have got a new xperia x mini, the bluetooth is not working correctly.
the phone connects with the car, adress book is available, everything okay like before.
but as soon as i start a call, after some seconds the connection is cut.
the multimedia unit does not jump back to radio, i have to do this manually.
what the hack is wrong with this car?
any other phone is still working. the xperia is connecting to other cars without any probs.
what shall I do? thanks for any advice.
cheers
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12th Feb 2017 7:34 pm
rovervirus
Member Since: 31 Oct 2012
Location: behind the sun
Posts: 92
btw: fault code for the cell phone module is:
U3000-54(AF)
whatever that means...Engineering is the perfect partnership between physics and design
13th Feb 2017 10:05 am
Mk1_Oz
Member Since: 21 Feb 2017
Location: Adelaide
Posts: 13
Just took over an hour to read this from start to finish....
Wiggs, hat off to you!!
I have an Australian 09 D3 SE that did not come with voice, nav screen or bluetooth but has the 6 CD sound system. I have bought a D4 bluetooth module, microphone, switches and MOST cable ready to do an install.
I have noticed that my car does not have any MOST cable to the rear (stops at the amp under the driver's seat). It also does not have a bluetooth module power cable (neither older Nokia unit nor D4 style) which I was not expecting. Does this sound right? Maybe it's an Aussie thing!
To ensure that the bluetooth module goes to sleep at the right time I was planning on running a power source from the power connector on the back of the under seat amp down to the module location (boot RHS). I will make up a MOST cable to extend the one from the under seat amp back to the module.
Does my power source sound OK? How many amps does the bluetooth module draw so that I can get the correct size wire and external fuse?
21st Feb 2017 10:43 am
wiggs
Member Since: 03 Sep 2006
Location: Manchester
Posts: 14372
You won't have any wiring in the back .. that's correct
Only exception is you take the most cable from the radio / head unit instead of the screen
All other info is in the above linkG4 Gone ...but not forgotten
21st Feb 2017 11:28 am
wiggs
Member Since: 03 Sep 2006
Location: Manchester
Posts: 14372
You can take the most from the amp if you find it easier G4 Gone ...but not forgotten
21st Feb 2017 11:30 am
Mk1_Oz
Member Since: 21 Feb 2017
Location: Adelaide
Posts: 13
To freight your MOST cable out to Oz (Wiggs) seems a little exy so I need to try to get a bespoke jumper cable made locally. Is the cable a specific type? What is the name of the end terminal (the clear plastic bit and the black plastic plug)? Never dealt with fibre before so need to know what I am asking for!
Also, my car doesn't even have wiring for the microphone grrrrr. Is the microphone connector part of the main loom or do those 2 thin wires run separately down the A-pillar and into the (I assume) radio head unit? If so, I could order one from LR or take another trip to the wreckers yard. Or make one, but what size wire is it and is it a standard style plug.
Tried using the D3 wiring diagrams from the RAVE CD but couldn't follow the microphone.
This project is getting bigger every day hehe
22nd Feb 2017 5:34 am
Mk1_Oz
Member Since: 21 Feb 2017
Location: Adelaide
Posts: 13
Quick update -
I eventually found the microphone wiring glued to the back of the headlining...win
No MOST or power for the module in the rear (as Wiggs thought would be the case).
I have mounted everything - reasonably easy although I don't like pulling my newish car to bits!
Originally I took the power feed for the bluetooth module from fuse 56 as suggested using one of those piggy-back adaptors. With the car off, when I press the radio on button to hear some tunes, the radio fires up but there is no sound until I turn on the ignition. Fuse 56 is ignition swicthed so appears not to be the best to use???? Currently I have it on fuse 1 which is a constant hot (interior lights) but I am not sure if this power will drop when the car goes to sleep of whether the bluetooth module will now be 100% on (and annoyingly trying to take over my phone calls I make inside the house). How can I get around the no radio sound with ignition off issue???????
Playing with CCF using Nanocom at the moment. There are a few setting I need to change. I do not have a screen in my car so do I still do "Multi Media Module (HLDF) Manufacturer Mode - landrover mode"?
28th Feb 2017 4:51 am
wiggs
Member Since: 03 Sep 2006
Location: Manchester
Posts: 14372
Fuse 58 .. as in above link
I would still change the HLDF settingG4 Gone ...but not forgotten
28th Feb 2017 8:58 am
Mk1_Oz
Member Since: 21 Feb 2017
Location: Adelaide
Posts: 13
Will try Fuse 58.
The HLDF setting is already saying 'Landrover'.
There are several bluetooth options;
cellular telephone
cellular telephone docking station, no bluetooth
cellular telephone docking station, with bluetooth ***
bluetooth cellular telephone module (without docking station) ***
bluetooth cellular telephone module (without docking station) with bluetooth telematics ***
telematic system
bluetooth telematic module
telematic preparation
cellular telephone preparation
I have tried the ones with *** at teh end (assuming the upload of the CCF actually worked).
With docking station and Bluetooth is correct, the reason you have no sound is that the BT unit is not powered, and as such the MOST loop is broken, and the signal is not getting past the BT module, if that is powered, are you sure the loop is "flowing " the correct way in and out of each module in the loop, I assume you have made up the cable as they don't exist off the shelf
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28th Feb 2017 9:28 am
Mk1_Oz
Member Since: 21 Feb 2017
Location: Adelaide
Posts: 13
As I said, teh radio sound is fine once the BT module gets power. Seems like I have just used the wrong fuse.
Just to confirm, I DO NOT have a phone dock in the car. Is the "With docking" still the correct CCF change? I would have thought if the car thinks their is a phone dock (that isn't wired up) it will always think the phone is not in the car.
Have a feeling I may have tried one of the with dock options but not 100% sure.
Is there a way to test if the BT module is broken? Will it transmit a BT signal once power is connected or only once the CAN Bus tells it to start working?
28th Feb 2017 9:37 am
wiggs
Member Since: 03 Sep 2006
Location: Manchester
Posts: 14372
Yes you still need "with docking"
Take the power from fuse 58 .. that's the car "wake up wire "G4 Gone ...but not forgotten
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