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Hi, After three desert trips in various Land Rovers I have learned this basic principle about "what car to take":
Any strong, reliable, well maintained 4x4 that has low range gear box. The comfier the better as most of your tour will be on tar and French/Spanish Motorways.
What toys to bolt on:
Get decent tyres of Road-biased All terrain pattern - Cooper AT/R are excellent, so are BFG A/T's (not so good for sand though)
Uprate your shocks to the best you can afford.
Take a 2nd spare if running 18" alloys or above.
Some underbody protection may inspire more confidence on Moroccos rockier pistes.
What toys to leave off (unless loads of money and the look is important to you):
winch
roof rack
roof/spot lights
roof tent (not required for Morocco)
You'll have a great tour in a D3/D4Fraser
28th Mar 2011 6:25 pm
Mark Hope
Member Since: 13 Mar 2011
Location: Scotland
Posts: 155
hi reggwensie
thanks for ur post very helpfull do u know if 18 will fit a d4 as some people say no brakes to big and some say yep no problem any idears
and u said uprate my shocks how and what company as i will have air suspention
and as for looking good well i like the look of the arb winch bumper, with out the bull bar bit on top arb dont provid this nene say they can they have done it before any thoughts would be great
thanks
mark
28th Mar 2011 6:43 pm
DSL Keeper of the wheelie bin
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Afraid standard 18s won't fit.
28th Mar 2011 6:47 pm
Mark Hope
Member Since: 13 Mar 2011
Location: Scotland
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ok thanks best let nene know they seem to think they will
any will standerd d4 19" be stronge enough or should i look into g4 d3 rims i think there the same apart from the d4 ones have a small square cut out of the
Ãou're overthinking it - don't forget, although the D4 looks (and is very plush) it's still got LR heritage and is designed to be an off road vehicle - the wheels are fine.LRs are a fond memory, apart from the maintenance.
28th Mar 2011 7:33 pm
Mark Hope
Member Since: 13 Mar 2011
Location: Scotland
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ok, ok thanks wheels sorted and yes i now i do look to deep into things get told it to many times
28th Mar 2011 7:39 pm
DSL Keeper of the wheelie bin
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Here's mine (closest), virtually standard except for RAI, sump plate, rock sliders, CB, remap and (most importantly) beer fridge. Done 3 Tunisia trips so far. As I tend to travel in Billy No Mates mode I get all my gear inside so no roof rack needed. Also for desert stuff I prefer 17" wheels & Contis, tough as old boots, great in soft sand (when my brain is engaged) and when I do get punctures cheap as chips to replace. I know 17s no good for you but my fave in the sand. My advice is keep it light, the temptation is to take everything but the kitchen sink "just in case", think what will you deffo need, not maybe if this or that senario happens. If you have more than one car, you can share the extra kit.
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28th Mar 2011 8:05 pm
grzesiul
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DSL your disco looks as if it been robbed empty LOL did you take at least extra pair of undies with you hidden in the glove box?? lol
28th Mar 2011 8:09 pm
Mark Hope
Member Since: 13 Mar 2011
Location: Scotland
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ye i will be travilling billy no m8s as well not many squadis like the idear of an overland trip as a holiday
any why yes i would like to be able to have 17" rims it would save louds of cash on tires and would have so many to choose from but o well i get get to do it in a d4 but yes urs is pritty much standerd and that was going to be a question but ur to quick thanks for the help
28th Mar 2011 8:12 pm
DSL Keeper of the wheelie bin
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grzesiul, a place for everything and everything in its place. Rest of the carp goes in the pads anger seat foot well.
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And yes, that's just for me!!
28th Mar 2011 8:14 pm
Mark Hope
Member Since: 13 Mar 2011
Location: Scotland
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t you sure u dont have the kitchen sink in there but good idear i have a few idear on how i would like to lay out my car ill post some pics tomorrow to see what u guys think
28th Mar 2011 8:27 pm
grzesiul
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I was right back seats were stolen
like the meshy frames you made behind the seats
28th Mar 2011 8:30 pm
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I cheat, I have a full length cargo deck fitted with rails & holders for water & fuel. 4 Wolf boxes & 2 spares inboad/1 underneath, plus spares under the deck. No kitchen sink (the joy of ratpacs), but do carry a 3t axle stand as have seen too many LRs sat on their jack for hours at a time.
28th Mar 2011 8:31 pm
reggwensie
Member Since: 15 Mar 2011
Location: Peterhead
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Car Kit/Loading
This was my 300tdi Disco prepped for a month in Algeria (needed 1000 mile fuel range and 100 litres of water)
Had 20l diesel x 5
20l water x 5
wolf box1-food
wolfbox2-spares
wolfbox3-tools
wolfbox4-washing/laundry kit/cooking kit
2 x spare wheels & tyres - both inside the car
A soft holdall for me and one for the wife
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And that was it. Our first trip was to Morocco for three weeks in a 1972 Range Rover - we took twice as much and didn't use half of it.
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28th Mar 2011 9:30 pm
Mark Hope
Member Since: 13 Mar 2011
Location: Scotland
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hallo again
here is what i was thinking of how to store the kit on the inside of the car
i like this as i still gives me a good view out the back
ill put fuel in a long renger tank were the spare wheel was
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i will take all your advice and tak two spares one in or on top of the car and the other on the back cant get the pic to uploed of the carrier
and water in a Poly Water Tank 50 Lt Vert Taper Mount with Cut-Outs for Behind Seats or straped to the storage unit
oztent most likely on the roof are theis really as good as they look and ound
i think this will work well and covers all the bases and keeping heaviy stuff low
what do u all think
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any thoughts would be great
Done 3 Tunisia trips so far. As I tend to travel in Billy No Mates mode I get all my gear inside so no roof rack needed. Also for desert stuff I prefer 17" wheels & Contis, tough as old boots, great in soft sand (when my brain is engaged) and when I do get punctures cheap as chips to replace. I know 17s no good for you but my fave in the sand. 
My advice is keep it light, the temptation is to take everything but the kitchen sink "just in case", think what will you deffo need, not maybe if this or that senario happens. If you have more than one car, you can share the extra kit. 
louds of cash on tires and would have so many to choose from but o well i get get to do it in a d4 
Rest of the carp goes in the pads anger seat foot well. 
but good idear i have a few idear on how i would like to lay out my car ill post some pics tomorrow to see what u guys think
