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Errr no never worked for Which. Razz

Did the odd day or two doing physical research so had to be extremely objective in drawing up conclusions.

So will always try to point out the good and bad points on any equipment. It is better to have information and then make a proper informed decisions.

Neither Trek, Mud or Overlander particularly stock winches and ground anchors, however I know we can supply some items and am sure the other two companies could as well. Now would it be worthwhile getting a local winch company to come along to local Event???

At least no one has told J he should not be driving alone at night etc. For solo vehicle driving, especially solo person in said vehicle you just have to be more careful, better prepared and more willing to back out before you get too stuck.


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Brendan - thanks for your thoughts. I'd indeed thought that winching forwards may mean going through worse before it gets better, but wasn't sure of reasonable alternatives? I generally try and avoid trouble when I'm on my own so would hopefully not get myself in a situation where I'd be pulling myself into a worse and worse mess. If it looked that bad, I'd probably turn around pretty swiftly! But sometimes the inevitable happens and waking farmers in the middle of the night to bring a tractor to tow you out is something I'd like to try and avoid - it tends to bring a swift end to you being welcome on their ground Wink

Demountable sounds like a good option but is starting to sound expensive. I'm unlikely to need to winch very often so don't really want to get into too much money. Presume to go down this option I'd need front and rear winch mount plus power to front and rear (i.e. twice the installation / setup costs).

Typical example of the sort of ground I cover:

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'twas a stubble field I'd crossed a number of times, but took a slightly different route and got bogged down v quickly. Doesn't look too bad in photo, but it is properly hung up and required a pull by tractor to get it out. Winching forwards (or backwards) would have quickly got me onto firmer ground.

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Although thinking about it, would I need a rear winch mount? Any reason I couldn't use a strop between the rear recovery point and winch and basically leave the winch sitting on the ground? I guess the winch would get lifted off the ground as the tension was taken up and may twist upside down though - not ideal... Not sure about power options, but suspect it wouldn't be too difficult to get some extension cables made up that would reach from the front of the vehicle??

Sorry - all on the very limit of my knowledge here Confused
  
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Had this come through this morning with the new Devon winch mount on..


http://www.devon4x4.com/images/newsletter/d4x4_feb2012_a4.pdf
  
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J, what tyres are you using?
  
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Brendan I can confirm that a D3 with a locking rear diff can become stuck Whistle

In fact, because it engages automatically, it can actually get you further in and more stuck.
  
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BullyBrighton wrote:
J, what tyres are you using?


Was running AT2's in that photo, which were swiftly sold after that incident and replaced with MTR's. The new D3 will have 17" rims and BFG muds on it...
  
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what about a tirfor? Hard work, but considerably cheaper than having front/rear/side mounted winches, easy to lug around and store. And using it a few times may be even more of an incentive not to get stuck in the future Laughing
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The plough type of ground anchor is really quite efficient, but if travelling alone you need a winch with a long (or radio) remote so you can stand on it while winching.
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i am with j@mes on this one. Tirfor are hard work, but are more flexable in there use...

Have a warn on the front of my D2 and have used it a number of times,

normally to recover other people, pull out trees and move logs

only time got stuck when out solo, needed to go backwards Sad Tirfor. groung spike and a mate to work it while I drove Laughing

only had to move back about 10M but would have been a lot of spade work with out the Tirfor.
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