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Waterproofing D4 - how to go about it
G'day everyone!
Here's a million roubles question: how waterproof is D4 generally? The manual states 70cm maximum wading depth, I assume this involves super-extended mode, and thus can be brought up by a maximum of 75mm with one of the suspension tweaks available (details here: http://www.disco4.com/forum/topic88176.html).
My old D2 however regularly found itself submerged to the point where I couldn't see the side mirrors or the bonnet, albeit briefly (and sometimes at the cost of a new ECU - until I've relocated it inside the cab). No blown fuses or dysfunctional winches after such a bath, though...
How good is D4 on this front? It does have a shorkel and a tray-mounted Warn 9.5XP winch, solenoid inside the grill. Connectors aren't sealed yet (fabulous Land Rover assembly ) but I'm sure a piece of heat-shrink tubing would cure this.
Do I need to seal the fuse box under the bonnet, or anything else for that matter (like the spare wheel lowering contraption in the boot)? I don't want to turn my Disco into a submarine, but it's nice to know that even if the ford you're crossing is not as shallow as your so called friends have told you the car will still pull you through
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25th Jan 2013 3:39 pm
DiscoDunc
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ive not taken the D4 through deep water yet, but the D3 went through over 1000mm (1m)
suspension went into extended mode
a decent bow wave will push the water enough to created a trough around the air intake
the photo below was taken before the deepest part
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25th Jan 2013 3:55 pm
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Peeps have had water up on the windscreen for short periods ...aside from the potential electrical damage your greater issue for longer periods is floating away TBH 21 year LR veteran > D2 GS 2003 > D3 S 2006 > D3 HSE 2009 > D4 HSE 2013 > D4 HSE 2015 > D5 HSE 2018 > DS HSE R-Dynamic P300e 2021
25th Jan 2013 3:55 pm
LT
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Did I not read that the D4 had additional waterproofing that the D3 doesn't? I had water over the bonnet a couple of times in the D3, on tricky crossings it's sometimes not that easy to hold the correct speed for a good bow wave.
25th Jan 2013 7:43 pm
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Didn't someone here have their D3 written off a couple of years ago (or so) when it floated off when crossing a ford?? ISTR crossing a ford on one of the Salisbury Plain trips of old and the car gave the warning "SOD THIS, I'M GOING INTO EXTENDED MODE AS I'VE STARTED TO FLOAT", scary moment til the nose came up.
25th Jan 2013 7:50 pm
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Crowdy I think, his was written off after floating and then getting washed down stream slowly.MY17 D5 1st Edition Namib Orange
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25th Jan 2013 8:28 pm
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25th Jan 2013 8:31 pm
Crocodile
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DG wrote:
...aside from the potential electrical damage your greater issue for longer periods is floating away TBH
My point exactly: it seems that some potentially vulnerable components have been relocated on a D4 (at least my chat with LR technicians left me with this impression) but there is an issue of wiring, fuses and all that... We once managed to drown RR Sport Supercharged and it ended up in a few new wiring looms - although this was in part down to LR mechanics being lazy and not attempting repairs for about a week after the car's been given to them, so the things just kept rusting.
And quite bad flood damage I've suffered (apart from expensive ECUs ) was when water entered the boot on my D2 when I got stuck exiting a pond made some of the electric tools in the boot inoperable and some clothes wet Plus I spent ages cleaning mud from the boot... The spare wheel release nut in D4 has a rubber cap on it, but come on...
25th Jan 2013 9:26 pm
DiscoStu
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The rubber cap works. Don't leave it off
25th Jan 2013 10:30 pm
RRR207
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I had water over the bonnett & up the windscreen of my D4 on Salisbury Plain before Christmas, it came out of the water in 'super extended' mode & I have to admit that about half way through I was wondering if I'd been a bit too ambitious!
I have got a Safari RAI fitted, without it I'd have been fd!!! No water got into the car or into anywhere it shouldn't be Nick
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26th Jan 2013 12:29 am
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had posted this before but does show standard d4 at times quite deep
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