You may need some electrics , but as for tow bar..they are plug and play
oh.....and you can also add the fancy storage for it later Cheers Ian
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Last edited by outofyorkshire on 18th Feb 2013 10:14 pm. Edited 1 time in total
STOP!! Do NOT use the tow bar for recovery!!! It's only rated for trailer towing!
For recovery you need to use the recovery eye behind the plastic cover in the rear bumper!
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Aye you dont need it ....what he says ^^^^^^Cheers Ian
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18th Feb 2013 10:16 pm
rich89
Member Since: 23 Jan 2013
Location: United Kingdom
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Ok. Wasn't sure if that would be suitable. Assumed the car points would be fine but thought that might be better for it.
Is a tow bar and jate rings actually needed for green laning or just peoples preference?
18th Feb 2013 10:17 pm
Apache
Member Since: 16 Oct 2011
Location: Yorkshire
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CDS wrote:
STOP!! Do NOT use the tow bar for recovery!!! It's only rated for trailer towing!
For recovery you need to use the recovery eye behind the plastic cover in the rear bumper!
Actually they are not rated for anything that I can find. They are for tie down.
A tow bar that can pull a 3500KG trailer will take a lot of force. Even with a breaked trailer imagine the forces applied if you break hard!
3500kg trailer 3500kg car = 7000kg total weight
Lets say 50mph = 80km/h
Break to zero, assuming highway code breaking distance of 53m
Lets assume you can stop in 4.5s
That give an acceleration of 5m/s/s
F=ma
Force of 35,000kg
I appreciate not all through the tow bar, but the trailer has forward momentum, the Disco pushing back towards the trailer etc etc.
The force must exceed anything a sensible recovery can induce. If not you are doing something badly wrong.
I like a combination tow ball for recovery, but is a bit plough like so not ideal if harsh off-roading.
Anyone seen any sort of certification for the front and rear [lashing] eyes?
It's more to do with the thing being ripped out if the socket or the attached rope and any shackle slipping off, then propelling itself across the open countryside at stupid speeds, usually in the direction of the vehicle being recovered!
Recovery via a tow ball just ain't safe. Period!
edit: If you want to use a tow ball to recover anything then please read this first:
And please don't use a tow bar to recover me - I'd rather remain stuck!!!
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18th Feb 2013 11:19 pm
Apache
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CDS wrote:
It's more to do with the thing being ripped out if the socket or the attached rope and any shackle slipping off, then propelling itself across the open countryside at stupid speeds, usually in the direction of the vehicle being recovered!
Recovery via a tow ball just ain't safe. Period!
Just as a D shackle can come through a windscreen?
See edit to my post ^^^
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18th Feb 2013 11:29 pm
Cam-Tech-Craig
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CDS wrote:
It's more to do with the thing being ripped out if the socket or the attached rope and any shackle slipping off, then propelling itself across the open countryside at stupid speeds, usually in the direction of the vehicle being recovered!
Recovery via a tow ball just ain't safe. Period!
edit: If you want to use a tow ball to recover anything then please read this first:
And please don't use a tow bar to recover me - I'd rather remain stuck!!!
Holy that's tragic... Thought towbars were the strongest thing on earth! Opened my eyes to the danger... 15.5MY XS in Corris Grey with Black & Almond leather
I have used the tow bar to pull a good 3 tonnes with no problem at all (trailer) ...however if doing a straight pull I use the recovery eye..have even pulled a big tree out of a dyke with it.
Just spend the money on a good quality pair of shackles Cheers Ian
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This is what happens when a shackle and rope comes off a tree stum,p that the driver of this D3 was trying to pull out:
So yes, shackles can cause damage, but they are a lot less dangerous than a full towing hitch flying through the air. The above was the result of not setting the rig up properly, so the moral is do it safely or not at all!
Another big danger with using tow balls for recovery is the fact that the rope/ strap/ shackle can simply slip off, leaving the vehicle being recovered in a potentially dangerous situation even if no metal work is flying.
A good friend of mine was recovering me and he dropped the strap over his tow ball, I got out and told him to get the thing off his tow ball........ No offense was taken and we recovered my D3 safely.......as the Australian news article tragically points out, simple errors can cost lives when you are dealing with massive forces involved.
It does make sense that the recovery eyes are for recovery, otherwise a) they wouldn't be there on th D3 and b) there would be a tow ball mount/ socket on the front bumper!
I'm not trying to have a row here, but if one person reading this stops using the tow bar for recovery it may just save somebody's vehicle from damage or even their life
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19th Feb 2013 9:49 am
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I had a feeling you might be a long sometime soon Paul
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that's tragic... Thought towbars were the strongest thing on earth! Opened my eyes to the danger... 
