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drivesafe
Member Since: 23 Feb 2006
Location: Gold Coast, Australia
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Hi PCH, I’m referring to the life span of the vehicle ( any diesel vehicle ) Diesels will require more servicing than petrol engines, particularly here in Australia because of the crap fuel.
Cheers 2008 TDV8 RR Lux + 2009 D4 2.7
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Glymmer_Man
Member Since: 08 Mar 2006
Location: Sunny Downtown Sydney. I wish it were raining.
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drivesafe wrote:Hi PCH, I’m referring to the life span of the vehicle ( any diesel vehicle ) Diesels will require more servicing than petrol engines, particularly here in Australia because of the crap fuel.
Cheers
Well actually, our diesel fuel is at the same standard as a most of the european countries (Sulphur content 50ppm, mandated by Aus Govt from 1 January 2006).
My father had a 1982 2.3l Diesel Holden Jackaroo (Isuzu/Vauxhall/Opel Trooper/Monterey, to you International folk) from new, which he sold in 2003 with 490,000kms on it. Although he perfomed regular oil changes, he never had the injectors serviced. This car is still running today.
This proves the longevity of diesel engines.
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| 8th Feb 2007 9:11 pm |
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caverD3
Member Since: 02 Jul 2006
Location: Oberon, NSW
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Glymmer_Man wrote:Well actually, our diesel fuel is at the same standard as a most of the european countries (Sulphur content 50ppm, mandated by Aus Govt from 1 January 2006).
In fact Caltex have been given an exemption from the low sulphur requirement.  So our fuel may still be crap.  you may or may not get the lower sulphur fuel. Having said that, the independent servo I get mine from is Caltex supplied and I have not had any problems.
Malfunction, just test drive all the vehicles you are interested in and concider the best value for money all D3s are good  but they do differ in feel and response. It may come down to personal preference and value for money. “There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely gamesâ€
Ernest Hemmingway
D4 3.0 Active Diff, Adaptive Lights, High Beam Assist, Surround Cameras, Privacy Glass.
D3 2.7:Adaptive Headlights,Electronic Rear Diff,ARB Bar,Blaupunkt Speakers,JVC Powered Subwoofer,Removable Snorkel,Mitch Hitch,Pioneer After Market Head Unit,Steering Wheel Control Adaptor,Remote Adjustable Supension Rod System, Taxside Dual Battery System.
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| 8th Feb 2007 9:49 pm |
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Glymmer_Man
Member Since: 08 Mar 2006
Location: Sunny Downtown Sydney. I wish it were raining.
Posts: 319
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caverD3 wrote:Glymmer_Man wrote:Well actually, our diesel fuel is at the same standard as a most of the european countries (Sulphur content 50ppm, mandated by Aus Govt from 1 January 2006).
In fact Caltex have been given an exemption from the low sulphur requirement. So our fuel may still be crap. you may or may not get the lower sulphur fuel. Having said that, the independent servo I get mine from is Caltex supplied and I have not had any problems.
I refuse to use caltex for this very reason, even though I have a fuel card with them.
Jerks! Why should they get an exemption, because they are lazy!
BP/Mobil/Shell can do it! Why can't the 'Battling Aussie' (not that thats true, considering they're associated with Chevron).
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| 8th Feb 2007 9:58 pm |
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jonesy63
Member Since: 17 Oct 2006
Location: Didn't we have a lovely time, the day we went to ...
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[quote="caverD3"]
In fact Caltex have been given an exemption from the low sulphur requirement. So our fuel may still be crap. you may or may not get the lower sulphur fuel. Having said that, the independent servo I get mine from is Caltex supplied and I have not had any problems.
/quote]
http://www.caltex.com.au/products_oil_detail.asp?id=293
Caltex has new plants online in Brisbane and Kurnell which have already been producing ULSD for months. Where did you see the exemption?
As a data point, a friend with a Mitsuxxxxx xxxero has changed fuel cards from XX to Caltex, and noticed a slight improvement in fuel economy. He logs every tank in a spreadsheet and he did 37,000km on XX... so run-in was not a factor.
Cheers,
Rob
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| 8th Feb 2007 10:36 pm |
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drivesafe
Member Since: 23 Feb 2006
Location: Gold Coast, Australia
Posts: 867
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Glymmer_Man wrote:I refuse to use caltex for this very reason, even though I have a fuel card with them.
Jerks! Why should they get an exemption, because they are lazy!
BP/Mobil/Shell can do it! Why can't the 'Battling Aussie' (not that thats true, considering they're associated with Chevron).
Hi Glymmer_Man, Exactly my usage too.
I only use Shell and BP as they guaranty their fuel’s quality.
Genuine Mobile servos are the same but I would take care when using franchise Mobile servos.
I’ve already had one problem where I filled up at a Mobile Quix servo.
I had at least 5 lts left in the tank and, according to their bowser, my tank took another 104 lts. Not bad for a 100 lt tank.
I raised with them and they said they would get back to me, well you know the rest.
BTW, 2011 is when the Federal government has mandated that we must have world parity quality diesel fuel, so until then we still have crap fuel, only not quite as crap as it was.
Also, I agree that diesel engines are good for many years of reliable service, but to keep this reliability requires continuous and regular oil and oil filter changes, far more than is needed with a petrol engine and even though diesel engines have jumped ahead technologically and in performance in just the last ten years, but when used extensively as a town vehicle, it is still a smart move to do more frequent oil and filter changes than is necessary with a petrol engine.
Cheers. 2008 TDV8 RR Lux + 2009 D4 2.7
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| 8th Feb 2007 10:45 pm |
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caverD3
Member Since: 02 Jul 2006
Location: Oberon, NSW
Posts: 6922
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This post:
http://www.disco3.co.uk/forum/topic7703.html?highlight=caltex “There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely gamesâ€
Ernest Hemmingway
D4 3.0 Active Diff, Adaptive Lights, High Beam Assist, Surround Cameras, Privacy Glass.
D3 2.7:Adaptive Headlights,Electronic Rear Diff,ARB Bar,Blaupunkt Speakers,JVC Powered Subwoofer,Removable Snorkel,Mitch Hitch,Pioneer After Market Head Unit,Steering Wheel Control Adaptor,Remote Adjustable Supension Rod System, Taxside Dual Battery System.
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| 8th Feb 2007 10:47 pm |
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Glymmer_Man
Member Since: 08 Mar 2006
Location: Sunny Downtown Sydney. I wish it were raining.
Posts: 319
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WHOOPS! Dave
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| 8th Feb 2007 10:55 pm |
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Glymmer_Man
Member Since: 08 Mar 2006
Location: Sunny Downtown Sydney. I wish it were raining.
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jonesy63 wrote:
Caltex has new plants online in Brisbane and Kurnell which have already been producing ULSD for months. Where did you see the exemption?
It was listed on the Caltex website, I agree with Caver here. It does however, appear to have been lifted.
It appears they didn't begin producing ULSD until 28.06.2006 at their Lytton refinery, according to this release
28.06.2006 Lytton Refinery celebrates production of cleaner fuels Dave
Disco Dreaming
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| 8th Feb 2007 10:55 pm |
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caverD3
Member Since: 02 Jul 2006
Location: Oberon, NSW
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Great if it has but as I said I havn't noticed a problem. I got a bad batch from another independent once about six months ago. “There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely gamesâ€
Ernest Hemmingway
D4 3.0 Active Diff, Adaptive Lights, High Beam Assist, Surround Cameras, Privacy Glass.
D3 2.7:Adaptive Headlights,Electronic Rear Diff,ARB Bar,Blaupunkt Speakers,JVC Powered Subwoofer,Removable Snorkel,Mitch Hitch,Pioneer After Market Head Unit,Steering Wheel Control Adaptor,Remote Adjustable Supension Rod System, Taxside Dual Battery System.
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| 8th Feb 2007 10:59 pm |
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Glymmer_Man
Member Since: 08 Mar 2006
Location: Sunny Downtown Sydney. I wish it were raining.
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It wasn't hearsay
Caltex really did claim an exemption last year. It was on their website!
BP was the first to introduce 50ppm in QLD in early 2005, I believe.
Lucky for me, my other card is a BeesPee one. Dave
Disco Dreaming
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| 8th Feb 2007 11:53 pm |
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