Nasher
Member Since: 07 Mar 2009
Location: Clanfield, North of Pompey - UK
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I’ve just got a quote from a tyre fitter close to where I work for two new AVON AX7s for my D4.
The worn ones are currently on the front, but when I mentioned that I want to swap the front and back wheels over at the same time so the new tyres will end up on the back I was told they would need to take the tyres off the back wheels to swap the TPMS sensors over.
They insist that once the TPMS sensors have connected to the car they cannot then be moved to another corner as they won’t connect.
I’m 99% sure this is rubbish.
Can anyone confirm this please.
Soon after getting my D4 in late 2019 I decided to move to 19” wheels from the 20” on there to get a wider range of tyre choice, so I brought 4 brand new wheels and tyres from an online supplier who also fitted brand new Genuine LR sensors.
I just put the new wheels/Tyres on, drove the car up the drive and they sorted themselves out.
But in all this time have not swapped the wheels around on the car. Heaven doesn't want me, and hell is afraid I'll take over.
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 30th May 2023 1:51 pm |
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grzesiul
Member Since: 11 May 2008
Location: UK
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never noticed anythig doing rotation
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| 30th May 2023 2:07 pm |
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nigethecat
Member Since: 11 Sep 2016
Location: Marnoch
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Sounds like 100% rubbish to me ! Why not just swap the wheels over and if there are any issues take it back at that point... if you run the tyres at the same pressure all round then there should be no difference whatever ! I want to see the sweets before I get into your windowless van... I'm not stupid!
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Zermatt Sliver 2007 D3 SE manual (gone)
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Firenze Red D4 HSE 2014 (gone)
Black RRS 3.6TDV8 2008 (gone)
Rusty Green Defender 110 1997 (gone)
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| 30th May 2023 2:14 pm |
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Nasher
Member Since: 07 Mar 2009
Location: Clanfield, North of Pompey - UK
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Thanks guys
Was doubting myself there, particularly as the place in question has a good reputation.
It's an independent not one of the large chains. Heaven doesn't want me, and hell is afraid I'll take over.
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| 30th May 2023 2:20 pm |
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LT
Member Since: 31 Dec 2005
Location: South West
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Incredibly, I had a technician at a main dealers telling me similar nonsense early this year.
I regularly swap wheels around on my FFRR as I did on all my Disco’s. TPMS just sorts itself out. Worst scenario I’ve experienced is the system needs a short drive to sorry itself out. Although I can’t recall the last time that happened.
 2006 D3 HSE (Original & still the best)-GONE
2010 D4 HSE (A bit bling)-GONE
2014 D4 HSE (Almost too bling)-GONE
2015 D4 HSE (A heated what?)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Written Off)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Surely the last!) PD1881 rims-GONE
2017 FFRR SDV8 Autobiography (now semi-retired)
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| 30th May 2023 3:12 pm |
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SteveNorman
Member Since: 14 Oct 2005
Location: Somerset
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I expect the tyre centre are just covering themselves, as some systems, (not Landrover) do require reprogramming.
But most are like Landrover & as long as the sensors are registered on the system when they are installed, you can swap them around as you like. Then take for a drive to register the correct pressures etc.
regards
Steve
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| 30th May 2023 3:19 pm |
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LT
Member Since: 31 Dec 2005
Location: South West
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Over the years I’ve bought numerous sets of “take off” rims, all with TPMS valves factory fitted. Never had to register the valves or anything at all. 2006 D3 HSE (Original & still the best)-GONE
2010 D4 HSE (A bit bling)-GONE
2014 D4 HSE (Almost too bling)-GONE
2015 D4 HSE (A heated what?)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Written Off)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Surely the last!) PD1881 rims-GONE
2017 FFRR SDV8 Autobiography (now semi-retired)
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| 30th May 2023 3:31 pm |
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Dave T
Member Since: 03 Jul 2009
Location: Glasgow
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Likewise, just go for a drive, needs nothing else Joined the BMWX5 45e group
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| 30th May 2023 3:33 pm |
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Washwipe
Member Since: 19 Apr 2013
Location: Bucks Oxon Herts Border
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LT wrote:Over the years I’ve bought numerous sets of “take off” rims, all with TPMS valves factory fitted. Never had to register the valves or anything at all.
Correct, the set of TPMS valves from you when fitted worked no issues at all.
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| 30th May 2023 7:10 pm |
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LT
Member Since: 31 Dec 2005
Location: South West
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^
They all came off stripped down “take offs”. A side hustle for a couple of techs.  2006 D3 HSE (Original & still the best)-GONE
2010 D4 HSE (A bit bling)-GONE
2014 D4 HSE (Almost too bling)-GONE
2015 D4 HSE (A heated what?)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Written Off)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Surely the last!) PD1881 rims-GONE
2017 FFRR SDV8 Autobiography (now semi-retired)
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| 30th May 2023 8:17 pm |
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Nasher
Member Since: 07 Mar 2009
Location: Clanfield, North of Pompey - UK
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Thanks all.
It's actually turned out that it's going to be easier for me to go elsewhere to get the tyres fitted, so I won't have the pleasure of explaining the LR system to the original guys.
I may even end up rotating the wheels myself over the weekend.
It's always a good opportunity to have a good look around the wheels, tyres, brake hoses, pads etc and spot anything untoward early, when not distracted by concentrating on a particular bit of maintenance like changing pads etc. Heaven doesn't want me, and hell is afraid I'll take over.
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| 31st May 2023 6:43 am |
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Dartanjang
Member Since: 20 Dec 2014
Location: Mountain Strokes
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TPMS systems silently identify a swapped wheel and understand after a short drive that the new sensor that has appeared in a new position belongs to the vehicle and continue to use its data.
This is the way that modern TPMS systems work and there is no re-configuration or sensor movement needed at all.
I have worked with TPMS supplier selection in the automotive industry and they all work like that. The tyre fitter needs to learn better or move to something else
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| 31st May 2023 8:51 am |
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stick
Member Since: 13 Jan 2010
Location: hants
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Off topic (sorry) but does anyone know how long the battery should last? Mine are 8 years old now.... d4 HSE
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| 31st May 2023 11:52 am |
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Dartanjang
Member Since: 20 Dec 2014
Location: Mountain Strokes
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Normally the TPMS manufacturers guarantee 6-7 years of battery life for the sensors. That is what is guaranteed so most sensors will last longer but you are reaching the time when they would start to give up one by one. You will be alerted by the car when the battery level gets too low and it is time for a new sensor. And yes, the whole sensor needs to be replaced as the battery is integrated but they aren't really that expensive.
Personally I would just wait for the alert and change the individual sensor as they go. I don't see the point in switching the whole batch in advance for more than the sake of peace of mind. And as I live in the cold north I change wheels two times a year and will have natural periods where the wheels are easily accessible for the job.
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| 1st Jun 2023 6:52 am |
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stick
Member Since: 13 Jan 2010
Location: hants
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Thank you, that's perfect.
I have two sets too, that I swap, so will be relatively easy to get done. d4 HSE
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| 1st Jun 2023 7:47 am |
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