Advertise on DISCO4.COM
Forum · Gallery · Wiki · Shop · Sponsors
DISCO4.COM > Technical (D3)

Vibration over 55mph , fingers crossed now resolved
Post Reply  Down to end
Page 14 of 16 <123 ... 13 141516>
gstuart
 


Member Since: 21 Oct 2016
Location: kent
Posts: 13648

United Kingdom 2005 Discovery 3 TDV6 Base 7 Seat Auto Java BlackDiscovery 3

Update

So managed to do a little bit more

Suspension error was a blown fuse in engine bay F3 , 5 x amp for ECU , suspension now fully working

As it hasn’t been used for 6 x months I took it for a drive round my local area , keeping the speed under 50mph as I thought then it would be less stress on the engine instead of just taking it down the motorway @70Mph

Got back most of the interior sill panels
2 x new bonnet struts , found using the small picks and rounded pliers ideal getting the old ones off
Re fitted both battery covers
Replaced as much of the engine bays electrical conduit
Engine cover insulation

Had the Autel handy so just plugged that in, found the bank 0 data and could see the figures were fluctuating a few % , but after the test drive and engine up to temperature it smoothed out

Don’t know if it was just me but the power came a lot smoother and quicker , at tick over the Rev counter now stays completely still with no fluctuating

I’m wondering because I’ve taken a lot of time ensuring all air inlet and intercooler leaks have now all gone if that’s contributed by the engine responsiveness being better

Don’t mind admitting am over the moon with the results , hope I never have to revisit the hoses/ pipes around the turbo area

Got a few things left to do

Passenger side plastic wheel arch trim
Small panels by the FBH exhaust
Door window glass trims
Get some fuel injector cleaner to run through the fuel tank

Also the drivers side master window switch is playing up again, unable to lower the front passenger window but works on its own controls

That’s was a challenge and a half trying to find the part number as see some are pre and post 2007 , 16 or 17 pin

So all in all I think some good progress so I’m getting there

Finally, I can’t even begin to say how grateful I am for the extremely kind help , million thanks from the bottom of my heart as I know I wouldn’t have been any where near , will update as I progress with the other bits

Know the rear outer sensor is faulty , got a new loom , other 2 x error codes have gone after resolving suspension issue

Few screen shots and data to go with this thread, plus I really hope this helps others

Thks again , plus am really pleased after all the work




























   
Post #229718525th Jun 2022 10:27 am
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
gstuart
 


Member Since: 21 Oct 2016
Location: kent
Posts: 13648

United Kingdom 2005 Discovery 3 TDV6 Base 7 Seat Auto Java BlackDiscovery 3

Well that was fun trying to find the correct part number for the master window switch , drivers door

Hope it helps anyone in the future , RHD

Pre 2006 , to Vin number 6A999999 is YUD501120PVJ
2007 onwards Vin 7A000001 YUD501560PVJ
   
Post #229721925th Jun 2022 3:56 pm
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
gstuart
 


Member Since: 21 Oct 2016
Location: kent
Posts: 13648

United Kingdom 2005 Discovery 3 TDV6 Base 7 Seat Auto Java BlackDiscovery 3

Another update , So finally managed to give it a good run , alas soon as I hit 50mph it went into limp mode

Pulled over and read codes

P0234-00 (68) Turbo/supercharger overboost condition

Turned engine off / on , ok coming home under 50mph

Pulled onto drive and noticed the engine was hunting , went to have a look at the turbo actuator arm, noticed it was very slightly moving

I did free it off months ago, must have been around jan/ feb so I’m thinking if it’s sticking again , I’ll also buy some Wynn’s VVT cleaner to put in the tank , will need to find something better to spray the actuator as been using GT85

Looks like I’ll need to get the actuator wire out again and give it another spray , plus at the end of the day if It ever did need a new turbo I think it could write the D3 off as I expect that would be a £2,500 job

However what else could I buy for £2,500 , lol, will see what happens after I free off the actuator again , but I’m not down and out just yet and refuse to let it beat me

As always many thks for putting up with me waffling
   
Post #230083820th Jul 2022 9:05 pm
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
Pete K
 


Member Since: 15 Jan 2016
Location: GL
Posts: 10364

England 2005 Discovery 3 TDV6 HSE Auto Rimini RedDiscovery 3

Did you get live values like I did ?
75% before engine started I think.

The turbos soot up on the inside (caused by not being driven and just idling)
And that can cause the arm to be stiff.

I used Wynn’s vvt cleaner purple bottle added to the fuel tank when you are ready to use the car for a few days
  
Post #230084220th Jul 2022 9:25 pm
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
gstuart
 


Member Since: 21 Oct 2016
Location: kent
Posts: 13648

United Kingdom 2005 Discovery 3 TDV6 Base 7 Seat Auto Java BlackDiscovery 3

May i ask do u think this would be any good for the actuator arm plse, many thks

https://www.amazon.co.uk/JENOLITE-White-Li...Q&th=1
   
Post #230084320th Jul 2022 9:31 pm
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
gstuart
 


Member Since: 21 Oct 2016
Location: kent
Posts: 13648

United Kingdom 2005 Discovery 3 TDV6 Base 7 Seat Auto Java BlackDiscovery 3

Pete K wrote:
Did you get live values like I did ?
75% before engine started I think.

The turbos soot up on the inside (caused by not being driven and just idling)
And that can cause the arm to be stiff.

I used Wynn’s vvt cleaner purple bottle added to the fuel tank when you are ready to use the car for a few days


Dam it as could kick myself, bless u as always Pete , I’ll definitely check that out before I do anything else

Many thks as just found this one, just looking for the purple bottle

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Wynns-Professiona...B01JZ7VZNE

Million thks as always Bow down

Edit, found it

https://www.amazon.co.uk/wynns-WYN31563-Di...amp;sr=8-2

Along with the forte one

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Forte-Diesel-Turb...uage=en_GB
   
Post #230084420th Jul 2022 9:35 pm
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
Pete K
 


Member Since: 15 Jan 2016
Location: GL
Posts: 10364

England 2005 Discovery 3 TDV6 HSE Auto Rimini RedDiscovery 3

I used this one. As per your link.

Wynns 31563B Diesel Turbo Cleaner 325ml https://amzn.eu/d/72WAEjv
  
Post #230085420th Jul 2022 10:14 pm
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
gstuart
 


Member Since: 21 Oct 2016
Location: kent
Posts: 13648

United Kingdom 2005 Discovery 3 TDV6 Base 7 Seat Auto Java BlackDiscovery 3

Bless u and will order some of that , assume it will take a little while before it gets into the VGT vanes , many thks

Wondering if it would also hurt spraying some of this on the arm to ensure that’s 100% free as well seeing it’s only a tenner

https://www.amazon.co.uk/JENOLITE-White-Li...Q&th=1


Million thanks as always Bow down
   
Post #230086620th Jul 2022 11:52 pm
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
gstuart
 


Member Since: 21 Oct 2016
Location: kent
Posts: 13648

United Kingdom 2005 Discovery 3 TDV6 Base 7 Seat Auto Java BlackDiscovery 3

Apologises for the delay , been working through this

My MOT runs out 14/9/22 , is on the drive so at least I won’t get into trouble

Rear lower wishbones were an advisory last mot and got a few quotes , there coming out around £1200 , which included both tie rods, 4 x wheel alignment , Mot

So I managed to move the turbo actuator arm and applied some red grease, have resolved every air leak within the intercooler system etc , put 125ml of the VGT cleaner

Took it for a test drive , was very impressed up to 50 Mph as it’s never pulled like that before , soon as 50mph hit vibration returned but this time it felt different , plus limp mode activated

Engine off and badk in again which cleared the limp mode , Gave it around a 30 x min run keeping it under 50 x mph

Came back home, plugged the iid in, no fault codes

Wanted to check the live data of the turbo actuator anti jam test , ranges from 8 to 97% , with the engine running on tickover it was at 60%

As I was sitting in the drivers seat I could hear the brakes cooling down ,, checked temperatures of the disks m callipers, drums and was very surprised , near side callipers are jammed up

So looks like I need to get all my brakes serviced , hopefully it’s just the sliding pins and not the calliper pistons

Here’s the data I wrote down along with live data screenshots , picture of the actuator arm after I greased it

Front offside / Disc - 29.4 c / calliper 26.9 c
Front nearside / Disc - 50.2 c / calliper 41.5 c

Rear offside / Disc 24.3 c / calliper 24.9 c / Drum 22.5 c
Rear nearside / Disc 49.3 c / calliper 45.4 c / Drum 38.5 c

Vibration starts around 45 Mph

Engine data

Engine off - Turbo actuator self test % range - 8 to 97%

Engine @750 Rpm - turbo actuator 60%
Engine @2804 Rpm - turbo actuator 53%

will have a chat with the garage to see what it will cost to get the brakes overhauled Big Cry

Then got to see about the rear lower wishbones , tie bars and Mot as currently can’t drive it

Hope everyone is keeping well















   
Post #230756513th Sep 2022 9:58 pm
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
Pete K
 


Member Since: 15 Jan 2016
Location: GL
Posts: 10364

England 2005 Discovery 3 TDV6 HSE Auto Rimini RedDiscovery 3

Arh sorry to hear that. I’ll try and have a full read later.

Maybe try and get an mot without doing the rear arms. They shouldn’t have changed much in that time
  
Post #230758014th Sep 2022 6:40 am
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
gstuart
 


Member Since: 21 Oct 2016
Location: kent
Posts: 13648

United Kingdom 2005 Discovery 3 TDV6 Base 7 Seat Auto Java BlackDiscovery 3

Bless u as always pete

Indeed am going to try but alas my now main concern are the brakes

Determined to not let it beat me that’s for sure , suppose just got to take it step by step , at the end of the day really hope this helps others

Thks again
   
Post #230762614th Sep 2022 2:51 pm
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
nigethecat
 


Member Since: 11 Sep 2016
Location: Marnoch
Posts: 4146

Ukraine 2016 Discovery 4 3.0 SDV6 Commercial XS Auto Corris GreyDiscovery 4

Gary, great to hear from you mate and glad to see you've taken the old girl out again, will drop you an email as I may have the solution to your brake issue Very Happy
 I want to see the sweets before I get into your windowless van... I'm not stupid!

Corris Grey D4 Commercial SE 2016
Zermatt Sliver 2007 D3 SE manual (gone)
Indus Silver D4 HSE 2015 (gone)
Bonatti Grey D3 HSE 2006 (gone)
White D3 S (LHD) 2007 (gone)
Firenze Red D4 HSE 2014 (gone)
Black RRS 3.6TDV8 2008 (gone)
Rusty Green Defender 110 1997 (gone)
Black FL2 HSE 2013 (gone) 
 
Post #230763714th Sep 2022 5:13 pm
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
Pete K
 


Member Since: 15 Jan 2016
Location: GL
Posts: 10364

England 2005 Discovery 3 TDV6 HSE Auto Rimini RedDiscovery 3

Well I am confused what causes the vibration. lack of fueling ?

I guess you need to record live data while driving upto 50mph

Record:
MPH
BOOST pressure
actuator position.
fuel pressure
RPM
coolant temp

or maybe you did that one page 1 Rolling with laughter
That graph hints at a fuel temperature sensor problem in the key ?
  
Post #230765014th Sep 2022 6:46 pm
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
gstuart
 


Member Since: 21 Oct 2016
Location: kent
Posts: 13648

United Kingdom 2005 Discovery 3 TDV6 Base 7 Seat Auto Java BlackDiscovery 3

nigethecat wrote:
Gary, great to hear from you mate and glad to see you've taken the old girl out again, will drop you an email as I may have the solution to your brake issue Very Happy


Hi mate

Bless u as always and think because I’ve not used it on a regular basis it’s caused the brakes to basically seize them selves up abit so all need coming apart

If I was able to I would get all new callipers, discs and pads

Thks again
  

Last edited by gstuart on 14th Sep 2022 10:32 pm. Edited 1 time in total 
Post #230767314th Sep 2022 10:11 pm
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
gstuart
 


Member Since: 21 Oct 2016
Location: kent
Posts: 13648

United Kingdom 2005 Discovery 3 TDV6 Base 7 Seat Auto Java BlackDiscovery 3

Pete K wrote:
Well I am confused what causes the vibration. lack of fueling ?

I guess you need to record live data while driving upto 50mph

Record:
MPH
BOOST pressure
actuator position.
fuel pressure
RPM
coolant temp

or maybe you did that one page 1 Rolling with laughter
That graph hints at a fuel temperature sensor problem in the key ?


Hiya

Many thks as always , Alas can’t take it out on the road anymore due to the mot expiring

Apologises as I should have added a note , the first few live data is sitting on the drive, turning the ign on and off to watch that the turbo actuator arm now has full travel from the 8 to 97%

With the engine off and actuator at rest it seems to stop at 60%

For some reason in the back of my mind I keep thinking about the fuel filter , as after a few months getting that changed I had issues , wondering when I get a new mot to buy another one and get it changed , I expect I’m barking up the wrong tree

Come dec this fault will be a year old , feel confident there’s no longer any intercooler leaks, as after done a full smoke test , plus stopped the air leaks at the throttle body egr pipes

Wonder if the next plan of action will be new Mot , fuel filter and brake callipers sliding pins removed , cleaned and greased then go from there, as at least then I’ll be able to start new road tests for some more live data readings

Suppose the year hasn’t been a total waste by resolving a lot of issues , of course wouldn’t have got anywhere near without the invaluable help and can’t even begin to say how grateful I am

Plus wonder if it’s worth borrowing a more extensive fault reader , like some of the garages use

Thks again and will of course do another update once I get a new mot etc
   
Post #230767514th Sep 2022 10:30 pm
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
Display posts from the last:  
Post Reply Back to top
Page 14 of 16 <123 ... 13 141516>
Jump to:  
Previous Topic | Next Topic >


Posting Rules
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum



DISCO4.COM Copyright © 2004-2024 Futuranet Ltd & Martin Lewis
DISCO3.CO.UK RSS Feed - All Forums

DISCO4.COM is independent and not affiliated to Land Rover.
Switch to Mobile Site