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higginbothamian
 


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Water in fuel

Just had a warning message saying i have water in my fuel. Has anyone had this problem before??

There is no noticable performance drop so i'm not sure if its an electrical fault.

The only thing i could think of would be not driving over the last couple of days and the disco being parked on the drive in cold weather with very little fuel in the tank...possible condensation???

I do plenty of off road driving but surely this can't be to blame as the tank is a sealed unit.

I'm confused. Confused

Any ideas??

Cheers

Ian
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Post #42004811th Feb 2009 7:19 pm
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wvlenthe
 


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If you don't notice performance drop, you could try filling her up with water and see what happens. Way cheaper than diesel and good availability.
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ljason286
 


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yes i have had the same fault and it took lr dealer 3 weeks to fine the fault and it turned at to be a faulty fuel module which its what the filter fits too.
the dealer tired water sensor in the filter
drained tank and new fuel
new filter
new sensor again

got fed up and ring landrover help line who got thing moveing and was fixed in 2 days of me phoneing up
  
Post #42009411th Feb 2009 8:18 pm
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Ocsid
 


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Edit: Clearly this developed as I sat typing, but I will leave what I wrote:


I am pretty sure that the water in fuel indication is coming from a separator or filter. This is where it is coalescing and draining to the bottom and so triggering a sensor.
It is unlikely to be getting to the engine hence your not aware of a running problem.
The danger is that the volume of water can overwhelm the holding capacity of the separator and then enter the engine.
It can potentially do untold damage to the engine particularly if left in the injection system, say overnight.
I have no info available of the separator/filter used on the Disco to tell you how to drain out the water, its usually easy.
You are advised to take it immediately to a dealer for investigation possibly just draining the water in the separator.
Unfortunately water can come in big slugs as well as little ones. The system copes with the little ones but if the volume is too much it just floods the separator/filter and gets to the engine. So you need to drain it at the filter then monitor it does not warn again, if it does its a tank drain.

Water most likely comes from ground water seepage into the bulk storage tanks; like if we have lots of rain!

It is best to only use high turnover fuelling stations, a good reason to frequent the likes of Tesco and those outlets selling cheaper than the others.
  
Post #42010411th Feb 2009 8:26 pm
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Bushwanderer
 


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The fuel filter is inboard of the right hand chassis rail & above the sump guard.

Remove the guard & then drain the filter until only diesel is coming out.

HTH,
Peter
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barryp
 


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Bushwanderer,

I have turned the plastic drain on mine and only a small quantity of diesel came out.

Two questions that perhaps you could answer.

Do you need the ignition on to Activate the low pressure pump to get a flow?

Do you totally remove the plastic drain plug?

Regards

Barryp.

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Post #42041512th Feb 2009 6:47 am
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higginbothamian
 


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Landrover assistance sorted it this afternoon. The bloke had never heard of this happening before and just reset the electrics on the car. Now sorted, but must take it to a main dealer if it happens again.

Cheers for all your suggestions. Thumbs Up

Ian
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Post #42086512th Feb 2009 9:12 pm
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Jonty
 


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Someone has posted the GTR instructions for draining water from fuel filter over on rrsport.co.uk. This is the link: http://www.rrsport.co.uk/gallery/albums/us...Filter.pdf
  
Post #42106513th Feb 2009 9:16 am
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richh
 


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hi guys, this could also be an electrical problem on the later filter types (further back on the gearbox crossmember just in front of the tank. water sensor runs from the connector into the filter head,there is an earth onto the top of the filter but the live and sense wires come back out of the head and down to the sensor the fault is mainly in the filte head itself which will need replacing, hope this helps, richh
  
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Ollram
 


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Jonty wrote:
This is the link: http://www.rrsport.co.uk/gallery/albums/us...Filter.pdf


thnx for the link
its not that difficult to be done...
  
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barryp
 


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Jonty,

Have you seen a link for the 2006 style filter which is not a screw on type but a semi permanent fixture? The link describes the process for the later screw on style which I think started with the 2007 model year.

Thanks and Regards,

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Jonty
 


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Hi Barry,
This is the only link I've seen regarding draining the filter, but I'm sure the GTR site will have info for the older style filters. I'm not subsribed to it, so can't help you there...... Sad
  
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