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If you need bits which is cheaper a webasto dealer or LR, and if you require parts which would you change as a matter of course ?MY18 D5 HSE LUX😎
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20th Feb 2013 7:41 am
Robbie
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I've not had to replace parts yet and didn't know that individual parts were available from LR - that didn't seem to be an option when I checked a while back.
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Thanks for your help Robbie And Chocolademan i'll give it a clean and see where it goes.
Will it need resetting via faultmate after or will it burst into life without anything ??MY18 D5 HSE LUX😎
MY12 Freelander SD4 HSE
44 Tonne 12 Litre 6x2 Scania T cab (Current)
Freelander 1 (Wrote off 😫)
Ex D1
Ex D2 GS
Ex V8 D2 GS
Ex D3 S
Ex D4 GS
Club skip ya lockers !!!
Club BAS remote heater !!
Club Duratrac
Club Phillips DRL
Club Prospeed Rack Mk 1
Club Prospeed Rack Mk 2
Club Sankey
Club RLD spare wheel protector
My webasto dealer is here in Norway so I can't really comment on the difference as its really expensive here anyway. The UK prices from the well known LR parts companies are around £110 for the chamber which includes the glow plug. The seal for around the top comes with the seals for the hoses and costs around £5.
Its hard to say which parts to change as a matter of course as a glow plug alone costs around £60, so I just wait until they start playing up and put a new chamber in.
The pictures I posted don't really show how bad the chamber is, but it was badly deformed and the insides did not look good. Washed out the casing, put a new chamber in and its running like a new one!
The circulation fan on the top of the webasto's have so far been ok on the ones I've done, but they are also known to get slack in the bearings after time.
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SHARKYSHARKS wrote:
Will it need resetting via faultmate after or will it burst into life without anything ??
Depends upon the faults. If it starts and then stops, then its more than likely to be an interlock fault which you can reset by removing the power. If its silly ones like low fuel you'll need a diagnostic tool, (if you have a timer, see page 302 of the manual Robbie linked to - although never tried it myself).
If you have a BAS module then that will sort all your problems out (with regards to resetting faults, not knackered chambers ).
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20th Feb 2013 8:09 am
Robbie
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I've only completely disassembled my own but got to see a number disassembled at the Webasto place. Not a great sample but the only things that looked like they suffered during use were the chamber and glow plug. Given the punishment I was surprised to see all the seals in really good condition when I would have expected them to have hardened or even split on removal.
£110 for a chamber and plug would make it tempting to swap out as part of an overall refurb and a no-brainer if a new plug was required on an older FBH.
I'd never worked on an FBH before working on my own and it took encouragement from the forum before I tried. For me being able to easily put the car into a drivable state was key as I had no idea what I would find on taking it apart or how long it would take to get parts or fix it. In the end I had it back in the car on the same day.
Having a coolant hose U-bend with 2 barbed connectors made it easy to restore the coolant pipes when the FBH was removed. Lost very little coolant too, as the FBH is quite high in the system - just enough to soak a rag.
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If you have a BAS module then that will sort all your problems out (with regards to resetting faults, not chambers
The BAS tool resets faults but it also tries up to 3 times (each time you press the plip) and gets the FBH running if at all possible! Many FBH's won't start first time which is why the BAS tool is quite often the answer. Once the crud has been burnt off all is fine at least until the next winter.Volvo XC60 - does all that the D4 should have done
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Totally agree jdhx, the BAS is very useful that way, but you should see some of the chambers I have dissmantled. They have been totally buried in soot and no hopers.
The BAS has helped a lot of my customers and most get one installed when I do a overhaul. Would definitely recommend that as a start to people struggling. If it doesn't help fixing, its a good (preventative maintenance) investment for when the FBH is running again!
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Have got my Webasto off and dismantled it is pretty clean inside the only thing i can find is that inside the glow plug chamber (which i cannot get into !! ) there is a rattling like there maybe a chunk of carbon in there that i cannot get at is there a means of stripping down into the chamber as i cant see any or any means of getting at the charcoal inside.
Thought i might fill it with brake fluid to try and dissolve the little sod !!
Any thoughts greatly appreciated MY18 D5 HSE LUX😎
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44 Tonne 12 Litre 6x2 Scania T cab (Current)
Freelander 1 (Wrote off 😫)
Ex D1
Ex D2 GS
Ex V8 D2 GS
Ex D3 S
Ex D4 GS
Club skip ya lockers !!!
Club BAS remote heater !!
Club Duratrac
Club Phillips DRL
Club Prospeed Rack Mk 1
Club Prospeed Rack Mk 2
Club Sankey
Club RLD spare wheel protector
24th Feb 2013 11:22 am
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I used carb cleaner on mine with very good results, but appreciate this is just a sample size of one!
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Coming out bit by bit but it like that game with the ball bearing trying to roll it in a hole MY18 D5 HSE LUX😎
MY12 Freelander SD4 HSE
44 Tonne 12 Litre 6x2 Scania T cab (Current)
Freelander 1 (Wrote off 😫)
Ex D1
Ex D2 GS
Ex V8 D2 GS
Ex D3 S
Ex D4 GS
Club skip ya lockers !!!
Club BAS remote heater !!
Club Duratrac
Club Phillips DRL
Club Prospeed Rack Mk 1
Club Prospeed Rack Mk 2
Club Sankey
Club RLD spare wheel protector
Have you taken the 2 washer like nuts off? They are quite hard to get off, but there is normally quite a lot of soot inside there (see 2nd pic on page 1). The actual chamber is all welded up so you can't really get too far inside.Faultmate MSV2 MultiVehicle
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24th Feb 2013 11:55 am
SHARKYSHARKS
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no can they be removed ???MY18 D5 HSE LUX😎
MY12 Freelander SD4 HSE
44 Tonne 12 Litre 6x2 Scania T cab (Current)
Freelander 1 (Wrote off 😫)
Ex D1
Ex D2 GS
Ex V8 D2 GS
Ex D3 S
Ex D4 GS
Club skip ya lockers !!!
Club BAS remote heater !!
Club Duratrac
Club Phillips DRL
Club Prospeed Rack Mk 1
Club Prospeed Rack Mk 2
Club Sankey
Club RLD spare wheel protector
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Location: Saddleworth Oldham
Posts: 1954
I know ive tried !!! dont want to daMage them ! WHATS UP WITH OLD FASHIONED NUTS MY18 D5 HSE LUX😎
MY12 Freelander SD4 HSE
44 Tonne 12 Litre 6x2 Scania T cab (Current)
Freelander 1 (Wrote off 😫)
Ex D1
Ex D2 GS
Ex V8 D2 GS
Ex D3 S
Ex D4 GS
Club skip ya lockers !!!
Club BAS remote heater !!
Club Duratrac
Club Phillips DRL
Club Prospeed Rack Mk 1
Club Prospeed Rack Mk 2
Club Sankey
Club RLD spare wheel protector
24th Feb 2013 12:02 pm
Robbie
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Sharkey, if you have the time can you take some pictures as I didn't and there are not many photos of an FBH removal and overhaul on the forum?Land Rover - Turning Drivers into Mechanics Since 1948
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you'll need a diagnostic tool, (if you have a timer, see page 302 of the manual Robbie linked to - although never tried it myself).
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to take off!
