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dick dastardly
Member Since: 29 May 2007
Location: wiggleigh bottom
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| Wheel spacers / snow chains |
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I've just put 3cm wheel spacers on front and back axels whilst changing to winter tyres. Looks great, better handling. Note to self: Self ! post some pics.
After cleaning the hubs and wheels thoroughly (dirt can make them loose later) I used a torque wrench and tightened to 154 Nm (recommended minimum 140 Nm). Will re-tighten after 200km.
This will allow me to use snow chains on the front (clearance only 0.5cm without spacers) without worrying.
I think that the spacers will be a permanent feature. Looks stunning with chunky tyres. Any disavantages ? Different load on the bearing but I guess all in tolerance, after all this is what Matzker et al do. There's one wheel on my wagon, but i'm still rollin' along, it's the cherokee, they're after me, but I'm singing a happy song
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 27th Sep 2008 7:37 am |
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Mounty
Member Since: 08 Mar 2007
Location: Near Basel
Posts: 762
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Are you coming with the spacers on? I also wanted to do that. But my garage meant max. 1cm and also it would give long term problems. So I left it at that, but your are right if Matzker does it.
lowlander Daniel
Now: RSS 2008 3,6l HSE
Past: 2.7l D3 HSE, D3 4.4l HSE, FFRR 2004 4,4l
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| 27th Sep 2008 7:00 pm |
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simonsi
Member Since: 14 Oct 2007
Location: Auckland
Posts: 1264
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| Re: Wheel spacers / snow chains |
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dick dastardly wrote:Different load on the bearing but I guess all in tolerance
I doubt it but it depends on how long you want your wheel bearings to last.... Cheers
Simon
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| 27th Sep 2008 8:21 pm |
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dick dastardly
Member Since: 29 May 2007
Location: wiggleigh bottom
Posts: 1112
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@Mounty: I'll be there with spacers
Have noticed that the car is much more stable in corners. Slight increase in road noise possibly due to longer travel on the vibrations. More likely due to stronger profile on snow tyres + tyre pressure of 40/40 front / back psi instead of 33 / 36 psi.
Also the looks are great, the large wheel housings are then justified. Probably would not look as good on MY09 as the bulges are not as pronounced and the colour coding deadens things (not as chunky).
Maybe I'll only use them for the winter months.
I guess that manufacturers would make cars with wider wheel bases as standard due to handling / good looks and that wheel bearing considerations prevent them doing this. Anyone know the numbers on this ? There's one wheel on my wagon, but i'm still rollin' along, it's the cherokee, they're after me, but I'm singing a happy song
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| 28th Sep 2008 9:45 am |
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Mounty
Member Since: 08 Mar 2007
Location: Near Basel
Posts: 762
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tyrepressure seems much to high, espescially the front. Daniel
Now: RSS 2008 3,6l HSE
Past: 2.7l D3 HSE, D3 4.4l HSE, FFRR 2004 4,4l
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| 28th Sep 2008 10:02 am |
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RR38HANS
Member Since: 22 Jul 2008
Location: BRUGES
Posts: 179
 
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There are a few reasons why wheel arches are generaly oversized.
To keep the side of your car clean in wet conditions.
To keep your pants clean when entering the rear seats.
D3 track is already a lot wider than D2 but off course more is better.
I had spacers fitted on my P38 at 165000km and had to replace the bearings at 259.000 km which is not to bad. Later I even added 20" wheels. These mod's transformed the handling from "boat" to "train".
The extra load on the bearings is only marginal in my opinion. 05 TDV6 HSE AUTO 7seats, tonga green/alpaca, alpine roof, privacy glass, tow kit, wood kit, 20" stormers n summer, 18" in winter, fancy exhausts, rear seat ent., club fooked turbo!
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| 29th Sep 2008 2:24 pm |
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simonsi
Member Since: 14 Oct 2007
Location: Auckland
Posts: 1264
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RR38HANS wrote:I had spacers fitted on my P38 at 165000km and had to replace the bearings at 259.000 km which is not to bad.
Fair comment but my D2 (V similar to P38 axles and bearings I understand), did 307,000km while I had it with no wheel bearing changes at all... Cheers
Simon
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| 29th Sep 2008 4:13 pm |
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