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'''EGR Valves''' - What do they look like ? ridgeback_moor has compiled a very helpful pictorial on what exactly these things are & what are blamed , sometimes incorrectly, for a myriad of woes .
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ridgeback_moor has compiled a very helpful pictorial on what exactly these things are & what are blamed , sometimes incorrectly, for a myriad of woes .
  
 
ridgeback_moor wrote "I've got hold of a couple of old TDV6 EGR valves (thanks to Disco_Mikey) to strip down and work out what goes wrong with them, and thought some of you might find pictures interesting.  There's plenty of discussion on here about EGRs failing, so these pictures might help to illustrate exactly what it is that is being talked about  :)"  
 
ridgeback_moor wrote "I've got hold of a couple of old TDV6 EGR valves (thanks to Disco_Mikey) to strip down and work out what goes wrong with them, and thought some of you might find pictures interesting.  There's plenty of discussion on here about EGRs failing, so these pictures might help to illustrate exactly what it is that is being talked about  :)"  

Latest revision as of 12:36, 23 January 2009

EGR Valves - What do they look like ?

ridgeback_moor has compiled a very helpful pictorial on what exactly these things are & what are blamed , sometimes incorrectly, for a myriad of woes .

ridgeback_moor wrote "I've got hold of a couple of old TDV6 EGR valves (thanks to Disco_Mikey) to strip down and work out what goes wrong with them, and thought some of you might find pictures interesting. There's plenty of discussion on here about EGRs failing, so these pictures might help to illustrate exactly what it is that is being talked about  :)"

Of the 2 valves I have, one is definitely u/s caused by a seized motor, but the other appears to function OK. I only stripped the duff one down so far:

Both valves, one for each bank of cylinders: DSC02904.JPG

Valve in the closed position (exhaust side): DSC02895.JPG

Open: DSC02896.JPG

Exhaust gases flow from right to left when the valve is open (a pipe connect the port on the left to the throttle valve assembly/inlet manifold): DSC02897.JPG

Unless there's a blank fitted!: DSC02907.JPG

The 3 parts (position sensor, actuator/motor, aluminium valve body). Note the actuator should be the other way round  :oops: DSC02894.JPG

This jaw on the actuator couples with the spindle seen in the back of the valve assembly, and rotates about 90 degrees to open and shut the valve: DSC02900.JPG

The valve opens and closes due to these guides in the valve body - the small rollers have ball bearings: DSC02898.JPG

but this valve had lost the roller on one side (the outer ring has broken and the balls were gone): DSC02899.JPG

This is the back of the actuator/motor, which appears to have suffered water ingress and corrosion (it was almost seized solid): DSC02901.JPG

Valve position sensor, which is a variable resistor to feedback to the Engine Control Module: DSC02902.JPG

Connector (pins 3 and 4 are for the actuator. 1,2 and 6 are for position feedback): DSC02903.JPG

Although both of these valves had some carbon build up around the valve ports it doesn't look like that is the reason for failure - the spindle moves freely and the valve seals well on the seat. I don't know the mileage that these had covered, but it would seem the weak point in the design is the actuator/motor which can corrode, and the valve guide rollers which collapse. I know this is only from stripping one sample, so hardly scientific, but it's a start! I'll strip the working one down later and see what condition that's in "

Full details of the discussion HERE