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urhunden
 


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FBH IID test

FBH again. Is it working or not. Difficult to know when sitting at the wheel. Sometimes smoke, sometimes not.

Tried testing with IID.
Fuel priming did not perform. E3
Check function did not perform. E7

No fault codes.
Is something wrong?

Is there a device that can overide the automatic function? Like a switch to start it with a feedback confirming that it works.
  
Post #15890127th Jan 2016 9:28 pm
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Flack
 


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Whats the local temp where you are, if below 6c it should fire up, unless its been locked out. Have you ever run your tank down to less than a quarter full.
Have you tried a system reset with the IID tool, if all this fails then you need to see if the FBH fuel pump is working, remove the small feed pipe to the FBH and see if any fuel comes out when you power on the car.

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Post #15890267th Jan 2016 9:43 pm
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urhunden
 


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Some answers.

Yes it is below -6 and a lot of snow. Terrible. I am in my house on the island Fårö north of Gotland. Tuesday goin back to Stockholm.
Yes I have been low on fuel. Is this something to avoid? Could be done as I have an extra 100 ltr tank installed. But it consumes a lot. 14 ltr/100 kms. Have a BAS remap.
System reset. Sounds damgerous. Is it like with my Mac that it is like a factory reset and upgrades and other things disappear?

It is strange though that not long ago smoke came from the front, but I have not seen it this week. There is a fan that sounds when I shut the car off.

Are there any live values that I can mail you?
  
Post #15890447th Jan 2016 10:17 pm
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The fan sound you hear is the FBH going through its shut down sequence so sounds to me like it is working, they don't all smoke!

Best way is to check the exhaust down by the front of the wheel and feel for exhaust once the car has been running for 2 mins or so.

Obviously be careful as it gets hot.
  
Post #15890517th Jan 2016 10:29 pm
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urhunden
 


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Will check tomorrow.
  
Post #15890697th Jan 2016 10:45 pm
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Flack
 


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Quote:
Yes I have been low on fuel. Is this something to avoid



If you are below 1/4 tank of fuel and then the FBH will not start, if it tries to start in this condition and logs three failed starts it will go in to Lock out mode, this will then need to be reset by your tool.

But as qwerty has posted if you are hearing the fan noise when the engine is shut down then it sounds like the FBH is running, do as qwerty suggests and see if you can see the exhaust from under the wheel arch is warm or smoking .

The system reset is just like rebooting your computer, you might have to reset your clock, but nothing else will change. Sometimes this clears quite a few problems.

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Post #15890707th Jan 2016 10:49 pm
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Pete-H
 


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My FBH wasn't working at all,i remembered that when I bought the car the fuel light was on so i guessed it had locked itself out...
I Pulled fuse 28 out and shut the car down for 10 minutes locked it up etc..I then reinserted the said fuse and now its working as it should within the right temp 5/6c...
Possibly worth a try ?
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urhunden
 


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Found out that the AC had to be closed when testing the FBH with IID.
Did so and both tests worked.
Have not checked the exhaust yet, but it looks promising.
Anyway it would good to have an indication if it works or not. How can this be done? Any good aideas?
  
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I wired an LED from the FBH coolant pump to inside the cabin so it lights up when the FBH is running.

 De-Tango
V8 Brakes
EGRs blanked
Running boards
3 flash indicators and clock on dash
Blingy grille... 
 
Post #15895978th Jan 2016 7:51 pm
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urhunden
 


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So then I just have to find the right cables and attach.
Some advice? Color of the cables. Or maybe even a picture?
  
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A bit dark at the minute for a photo, I'll have a look tomorrow if I get a chance.
 De-Tango
V8 Brakes
EGRs blanked
Running boards
3 flash indicators and clock on dash
Blingy grille... 
 
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Ev2uk
 


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urhunden wrote:
Found out that the AC had to be closed when testing the FBH with IID.
Did so and both tests worked.
Have not checked the exhaust yet, but it looks promising.
Anyway it would good to have an indication if it works or not. How can this be done? Any good aideas?


What exalty do you mean when you say the AC has to be 'closed' to test with an IID tool

My test counts to about 300 seconds then said something like "failed E.8"



Tony
 New D3 Owner.. every day it starts is a bonus but any bongs or beeps are heart-stopping.  
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urhunden
 


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This is what happens if you are not shutting off the AC when doin the test.
I found this out from the manual.
  
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Ev2uk
 


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So do I need to just turn the AC off or the whole HVAC control panel ?

Also what manual are you referring to that you saw this intonation in ?


Tony
 New D3 Owner.. every day it starts is a bonus but any bongs or beeps are heart-stopping.  
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urhunden
 


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The IID manual.

I just pushed the on/off button to off. And yes the whole system is then off.
  
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