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r4ff
 


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United Kingdom 2005 Discovery 3 TDV6 S Manual Bonatti GreyDiscovery 3
Problems replacing upper rear arms

Due to a literally none existent bush on my NSR upper arm, I've had to take a bash at replacing the arms on both sides... and as usual with my car, a simple job that should take a few hours has left it on axle stands with me asking you guys for help Big Cry

My problem is thus; the camber(?) bolt is welded into the bushing on the hub carrier..... no matter how much WD40 I spray, or how hard I whack it with a hammer, the liitle b**tard won't budge. Am I gonna have to slice it out and replace the whole hub carrier? I don't have a press so replacing just the bush is a no go.

As usual, any and all help is greatly appreciated Bow down

Matt.
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You don't need a press to change the bushes. In fact it's often easier to replace them in situ rather than take the hub off. Cut off the top arm with a angle grinder and then get a large hammer and don't give up! I find the new bush in the freezer for a day before trying to fit makes it much easier. You'll need a good size socket to knock the new one in with.

Have you managed to undo the other bolts on the top arms? The rears can be a right pain.

Pete.
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Post #15891598th Jan 2016 12:42 am
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Just seen your not that far from me as well if you get stuck.

Pete.
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Post #15891608th Jan 2016 12:43 am
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r4ff
 


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The top bolts have both been attacked with my recip saw and angle grinder, and are somewhat on their way to being removed, but I ended up giving the carrier bolt my attention and got hung up on that... so currently all 3 bolts are still in situ Big Cry
How hard is the original bush to remove from the carrier? Will pop to Armstrong Massey tomorrow to see if they have any new bushes in stock.
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we have no time to stand and stare.
 
 
Post #15891668th Jan 2016 1:06 am
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Very hard to remove Thumbs Up

Just keep hitting it very hard and once they start moving they come out pretty easy.

Pete.
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Post #15891708th Jan 2016 1:09 am
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r4ff
 


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I'll keep that in mind Mr. Green Guess the hammer and angle grinder will be getting a bit more use tomorrow Rolling with laughter
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Post #15891718th Jan 2016 1:11 am
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r4ff
 


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After 3 days, many new tools and some actual blood, sweat and tears.... one of my rear arms is changed!!! The other side ca wait till I've stopped wanting to poor petrol and the car and burn it to the ground...
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we have no time to stand and stare.
 
 
Post #15901039th Jan 2016 8:15 pm
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zinke
 


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I did all 8 arms and all bushes and anti roll links and track rod ends all at the same time, all good fun! Lol.

Pete.
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Mine took me a week! Cutting and grinding etc etc. Those hub carrier bushes are a sod. I had to cut my bolts then hit like hell with a hammer. Replacing the new hub carrier bushes you will need a bush insertion/ winding tool. Hand held and no need to take the hub off the car.
  
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When I changed the upper / lower bushes in my rear hub carriers I also had the problem of the camber bolt being seized in.

I cut through it and the bush using a hand hacksaw in around 20 minutes (think pictures are in my gallery) and then pressed out the bush with, in effect, sockets by taking my large vice off the bench and out to the car.

Maybe I was just lucky but found I could be more precise with hand tools.
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The old hub carrier bush came out with copious whacks from a large hammer, and to put the new one in I used a 40mm impact socket with gentle hammer taps to seat it straight, then more whacking to press it into the carrier.
The other two bushes had a violent demise at the hands of my angle grinder and recip saw.

Getting the new bolt in past the compressor cover was a pain in the *ss, anyone else have problems with that?
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Post #159038010th Jan 2016 2:00 pm
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Exactly how I did it too.

Yeah that bolt is a pain, if you put it in first you can put it in at a angle and then move the arm back in once the bolt head is clear of the housing.

Pete.
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You did well to get the hub carrier bushes in with your method. Well done
  
Post #159073811th Jan 2016 12:17 am
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r4ff
 


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I did look at purchasing the insertion tool from my local motor factors, but it was £90!? 40mm socket was only £13 Mr. Green
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At least next time they will just slide out Very Happy
   
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