BJ
Member Since: 28 Feb 2007
Location: Daventry
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I assure you this is not a moan. A moan indicates a thoughtless attempt to offload your problems onto someone else.
We NEED to find a solution (assistance required from any relevant field of expertise), it would be great to work with those with the technical ability (vehicle manufacturers) and vested interest to solve the matter. It is a sad fact that this has not been thus far, possible. Surely as can be, someone, somewhere is going to end up in court over this problem when being prosecuted for something that is not their fault. The LED products are all fully EEC approved items, complying with all aspects of every relevant directive.
Items in themselves manufactured by a relatively large industry. The vehicles, no doubt comply fully with all aspects of it's legal requirements and yet the two are incompatible In all probability because of an extra function built into the towing vehicle (to check for either the presence of a trailer or a bulb failure sensing system).
Electronics experts where are you!
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 1st Mar 2007 2:01 pm |
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pko
Member Since: 06 Apr 2006
Location: usually in the pub
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I have a Bessacarr Caravan with rear Hella l.e.d. lights (12 led in each cluster, 24 led total) & this is my third Disco 3 I've towed it with & haven't had any problems. never drive faster than your guardian angel can fly
current motor RRsport hse
prev. cars TD5
3 Ford Explorers
2 Ford Mavericks
Sierra 4x4
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| 1st Mar 2007 2:21 pm |
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pko
Member Since: 06 Apr 2006
Location: usually in the pub
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Re my previous post, thinking about it, the LEDs on the caravan are only part of the obligatory lighting system,
as the circuit contains 6 filament bulbs perhaps these are smoothing out the current. never drive faster than your guardian angel can fly
current motor RRsport hse
prev. cars TD5
3 Ford Explorers
2 Ford Mavericks
Sierra 4x4
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| 1st Mar 2007 2:26 pm |
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irf
Member Since: 28 Sep 2005
Location: Herts
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I use some custom LED lights on my boat trailer. For me it's only the indicator lights that are affected by the pulsing.
47OHM resistor is series with each lamp, 1,000 microfarad across each lamp fixes it for me. Components from Maplin.
You might need to adjust for the specific current consumption of your lamps
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| 1st Mar 2007 3:04 pm |
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BoatMad
Member Since: 28 Feb 2007
Location: Dublin
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You beat me to it, A simple RC circuit ( Resistor capacitor) would do the trick.
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| 1st Mar 2007 8:08 pm |
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DG
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Member Since: 12 Dec 2005
Location: The Gaff
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Well done chaps for sorting out the lighting ...perhaps we can work on the design next 
I wonder how much is this company going to contribute to disco3.co.uk for solving it's problems? 21 year LR veteran > D2 GS 2003 > D3 S 2006 > D3 HSE 2009 > D4 HSE 2013 > D4 HSE 2015 > D5 HSE 2018 > DS HSE R-Dynamic P300e 2021
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| 1st Mar 2007 9:09 pm |
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BJ
Member Since: 28 Feb 2007
Location: Daventry
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Ignoring comments about this being 'their problem' - it does affect more than just our own small customer base. Thank you for the suggestions. Will attempt test of such a system and report on results. If we resolve this and publish a known solution this will help all concerned both now and for the future.
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| 1st Mar 2007 11:56 pm |
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Martin
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Member Since: 06 Nov 2004
Location: Hook Norton
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dickgriff wrote:Well done chaps for sorting out the lighting ...perhaps we can work on the design next
I wonder how much is this company going to contribute to disco3.co.uk for solving it's problems?
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| 2nd Mar 2007 12:25 am |
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White Disco
Member Since: 15 Jan 2007
Location: Gondwana. It's raining. We'll All be roon'd.
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Facilitation fee. You can charge more. Did you think I would leave you crying,
When there's room in my D3 for 7,
Climb in here Joe we'll soon be flying,
I can go just as fast with 7.
2005 TDV6 S with Terrain Response (& all that entails), Tasmods (gorn). 2008 TDV6 HSE (gone). A Dark Side umbrella (here) & car (here).
Volkswagen Golf (SWMBO's)
Datsun Insult (SWTSMBOBIO22SHOMSAH)
Datsun Insult (SWTSMBOBIO19SHOMSAH)
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| 2nd Mar 2007 12:39 am |
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zebadee
Member Since: 15 Feb 2006
Location: The Magic Roundabout
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christyler wrote:where can i get some of these LED trailer lights from for testing, I recon i can solve this problem
I thought you already suggested a fix for this some time ago, in this thread Chris !!!
http://www.disco3.co.uk/forum/topic7614.html?highlight=
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| 2nd Mar 2007 12:32 pm |
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christyler
Member Since: 31 Dec 2005
Location: Cork, Ireland
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[quote="zebadee
I thought you already suggested a fix for this some time ago, in this thread Chris !!!
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well that was more for the problem of the fast flashing of the internal turn signal thing, this is a slightly more complex problem.
Looks like it's out of my hands now anyway, I wish them the best. CLUB "Ah Shor it'll be grand"
First D3 in the World with a Hydraulic Winch.
2006 Disco 3 TDV6 S Auto,
Diff Locks, Turbochipped, Raised Air Intake, 220volts Onboard, Onboard Compressor, Large Bore Exahust, Underbody Protection, One or two Other Mods as well.
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| 2nd Mar 2007 3:12 pm |
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zebadee
Member Since: 15 Feb 2006
Location: The Magic Roundabout
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Mmmmmmm ?? !!
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| 2nd Mar 2007 6:31 pm |
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Steve Pavey
Member Since: 02 Mar 2007
Location: Pulborough, West Sussex
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Bodsy wrote:But in terms of the car being up to date, LR don't use LED's for the lights, so should they be expected to cope with it? with all the electronic gadgetry in these things, perhaps with all the boings and checks that goes in, the software woiuld need some major re-work. I reckon they'll gte some LED stuff for the Disco4 but probably not before.
Isn't it strange that the Disco 3 and Sport can detect trailer connections but have no bulb failure detection?
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| 3rd Mar 2007 12:18 am |
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TDV6
Member Since: 23 Apr 2006
Location: Queensland or there abouts
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The problem gets worse than I have seen mentioned on this forum. Some electronic brake controllers pass this 3-volt pulse down to the brakes on the trailer/caravan, with the obvious result of cyclic partial activation of brakes on the towed trailer. I wasted $$ on such a controller before finding one that didnt pass this 3-volt pulse down to the trailer.
I also had a Tupperware container of electronics between my car and the caravan to stop the LED indicators from strobing on and off, but now have a device fitted that allows me to select an electronic mode when towing that keeps the car electronics happy (knows it has a trailer connected) and stops the LED's going off in strobe mode, and then I switch it back to car only when not towing.
The device is Australian made and called a Pulse Shunt, details can be found on http://www.labtronx.com.au/page2.html
Sorry about the plug for Aussie, but we do have some good ideas now and then.
TDV6
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| 3rd Mar 2007 12:29 pm |
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90BHP
Member Since: 18 Oct 2006
Location: Half way along the road on the right
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Contribute - Or a hefty discount for members after a BJ item from Daventry. I can collect mine in person, thanks. "To finish first, one first has to finish ...."
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| 3rd Mar 2007 10:18 pm |
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