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10th Mar 2008 11:11 pm
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10th Mar 2008 11:16 pm
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Yeah Dunc!Picked up my new MY08 Stornaway TDV6 SE late Feb. FULLY STOKED! Thanks in advance for all the advice/tips you guys have shared on here!!!!!!!!!!!!
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11th Mar 2008 12:40 am
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Is that winch rope under tension? The observer is a bit too close if it is.06 TDV6 SE with many LR and after-market extras. Used only on weekends and trips out west.
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11th Mar 2008 2:39 am
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Well he doesnt like his legs anyway
Know this is exactly why winch training is pushed on this forum
11th Mar 2008 7:07 am
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Is that winch rope under tension? The observer is a bit too close if it is.
Its OK, its only BobbyCrispBox
EDIT - no its not, its Sonic3 , I think...Duncan
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11th Mar 2008 7:22 am
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What in Pic 4
11th Mar 2008 7:23 am
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you are too quick Ken ........Duncan
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11th Mar 2008 7:25 am
Ken
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Could have been Sonic0 with all three legs taken out
Come on Dunc you are a seasoned 4x4 er, gentle reminders to less experienced crew never go amiss the only way we all learnt was via good advice and training
Certainly don't want to see a accident on a D3 event
We can't blame Dunc here, he was inside the vehicle. We should be blaming me, as I was coordinating the operation from the outside.
And in my defence, I feel it was a reasonably safe operation - don't judge me on the basis of one still photo! The biggie, which Tony pointed out at the time, was that the vehicle was on a slope of > 45deg and was supported only by the winch rope. Another static line on to a tree would probably have been a good idea.
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11th Mar 2008 8:13 am
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How would the static line work then, as you'd still need to adjust it as it comes up the hill wouldn't you...?
Yes yes yes, i know I need to go on the training to fully understand the implications & to practice it, but just wanted to get an idea.... Anyone?
Would be interested in a mid-week (low cost ) winch training day at some point (but I don't have a winch... ) Anyone else?Bodsys Brake Bible
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11th Mar 2008 9:48 am
simon
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We were all well away from the line in the trees... and in that still with Sonic - he was at the side for a brief moment checking the line out and passing on info to Dunc before he started to pull.
Points taken though. If that winch line had gone with the weight of the D3 pulling on the slope......
11th Mar 2008 9:51 am
simon
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Bodsy wrote:
Would be interested in a mid-week (low cost ) winch training day at some point (but I don't have a winch... ) Anyone else?
Yes please... and I have no winch either... but having the knowledge to know what to do of there is only one winch and its in this situation, would be invaluable.
11th Mar 2008 9:53 am
Ken
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BCB nobodys judging but a steel winch rope under load is not a nice place to be if it decides to snap thats all
Surely the point is this......
If the observer knew the winch wire was under tension & decided that the risk that would be born to
go in and observe the rope was acceptable, then fair enough. Other may not have made that decision.
What would be much worse is if the observer was not fully aware of the consequences.
One can never tell where a winch rope or wire will fail. I have seen appow 10 winch wire failures over 25 years or so and the vast majority have occurred at either the hook end or near the failead.
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The observer is a bit too close if it is.
