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jjvd21
Member Since: 16 Jul 2007
Location: Chicago
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Whether you’re replacing the arms or just the bushes you may want to consider the uprated RRS bushes. 16 D4 Landmark
05 D3 HSE V8
THE original D4 spotter
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 6th Jul 2019 2:53 pm |
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M3DPO
Member Since: 22 Sep 2010
Location: Notts.
Posts: 8103
  
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S-in-L took his D4 to main agent for a “free” MOT, health check and 7 year service, got a £4,600 bill waiting for him when he went to collect it and they would not release it until it was paid, needed new front bushes and disks, neither would they realise it after it’s MOT until the work was done as they claimed it was illegal. It can when others can't,
It will when others won't,
It goes where others don't.
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| 6th Jul 2019 6:04 pm |
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lynalldiscovery
Member Since: 22 Dec 2009
Location: Maidstone
Posts: 7274
  
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Illegal or not surely holding someone elses car is the only illegal bit?
Did I read it right and you said they mot tested it then said it needed the work doing?
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| 6th Jul 2019 11:27 pm |
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Mr Kington
Member Since: 12 Dec 2011
Location: Scottish Borders
Posts: 1549
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Surely he had to Ok the work before they did it ? Not sure they can decide to do £4.5k worth of work without permission. Also knowing what the health check came back with on mine (8 years) ago. 90% of the health check was hopeful at best. Pads needed replacing (they had half left) etc etc. They gave it a red (dangerous) as it needed a 4 wheel alignment. This was only if they changed an arm (which it didn’t need anyway). Am sure they do this to trick people into thinking it all needs doing etc. James favourite hobby is writing in the third person.
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| 7th Jul 2019 8:32 am |
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M3DPO
Member Since: 22 Sep 2010
Location: Notts.
Posts: 8103
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lynalldiscovery wrote:Illegal or not surely holding someone elses car is the only illegal bit?
Did I read it right and you said they mot tested it then said it needed the work doing?
Yes, failed it’s MOT and they claimed it is now illegal to drive a car on public roads with a failed MOT.
Mr Kington: yes they did tell him before the work was done, but as he has a monthly account with them they would not allow him to put it on the monthly account, they claimed £4K is the limit and as it had gone over this limit had to be paid in full, not just the amount it had gone over, they did not inform of of this prior to the work being done.
All I am comparing is how much can be saved with DIY. It can when others can't,
It will when others won't,
It goes where others don't.
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| 7th Jul 2019 8:51 am |
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Mr Kington
Member Since: 12 Dec 2011
Location: Scottish Borders
Posts: 1549
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DIY would save a fortune. My D3 is well out of warranty hence doesn’t matter as much but I get everything from Advanced factors and a local mechanic does all the work. Saves a small fortune. If the D4 is new or within warranty then maybe not so easy to go down this route.
Regarding the garage then they will hold every single customer to ransom if their call fails the MOT. Doesn’t seem right or legal. James favourite hobby is writing in the third person.
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| 7th Jul 2019 9:12 am |
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johnlad
Member Since: 02 Dec 2016
Location: blackpool
Posts: 406
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No garage can impound your car for failing an mot, they can say it’s not legal to drive and report you to the police if you do drive it. They cannot stop you trailering the vehicle away for repair elsewhere.
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| 7th Jul 2019 9:21 am |
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john watson
Member Since: 10 Nov 2011
Location: lanark
Posts: 957
 
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My D3 failed its MOT this year! This was 7 days before the old MOT ran out. It was failed by VOSA inspectors who did a spot check on the MOT station involved. Just my luck. Was informed you still have a valid MOT until the old one expires. Drove the car and got it fixed. It passed one day after the old one expired as I had 10 working days in which to present the car for retest. The retest did not cost anything. Suggest the garage was at it playing on the owners lack of knowledge! Once you have defeated the idiots any job is half done. Pity there are so many idiots to defeat.
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| 7th Jul 2019 9:37 am |
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Disco_Mikey
Member Since: 29 May 2007
Location: Dundee, Scotland
Posts: 20731
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See this all the time
The vehicle "shouldn't" be driven away with a Dangerous failure on the MOT cert. But the car "shouldn't" be driven on the road in an unroadworthy condition anyway 
Major defects, can be driven away for repair elsewhere, without issue My D3 Build Thread
TDV8 Retrofit Build Thread
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| 7th Jul 2019 10:50 am |
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reb78
Member Since: 21 Apr 2018
Location: Herts
Posts: 217
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Disco_Mikey wrote:If you are paying someone else's labour to replace the bushes, then it can work out more expensive than putting a new arm on
D3 front upper arms are a perfect example
Complete genuine arm, with 2 new bushes and new ball joint - £63.44 + VAT
Genuine bushes* are £40 + VAT each 
The ball joint being another £35 + VAT
And then the additional labour to replace bushes and joint
*Cheaper bushes are available. This is just an argument I had with LR Approved warranty. They wouldn't cover replacing the arms, only the bushes
Yep - those prices wouldnt make sense to buy seperately even if changing the bushes myself! Lower arms are more cost effective though.
So, I need to buy bushes. Does anyone have any opinions on brands? I have seen Delphi, Meyle, Lemforder and Genuine. Lemforder are really cheap....
Does anyone have any more detail on the RRS 'upgrade'?
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| 9th Jul 2019 1:13 pm |
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gardendisco
Member Since: 05 Jun 2015
Location: Belfast
Posts: 112
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Does anyone know the size of bush removal tool I need for changing the 2 bushes on the front lower arms?
I have a spare set of arms with shot bushes but the bush removal sizes I have for the press aren't the right size to remove either bush, anyone know what size is needed and where I can buy the 2 of them?
Thanks
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