Member Since: 30 Aug 2014
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....2011 - 2015: 3 x FL2
2015 - 2017: 2 x D4
2017 to date: FFRR SDV8
2023 to date: 2 x FL2 as “second” cars 🙄
2021 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200
2022 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200 & sidecar!
(One of only two known to exist in the world!)
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30th Nov 2016 9:34 am
dubbs
Member Since: 18 Apr 2012
Location: Gloucestershire
Posts: 3626
I think the 2 litre is the WAG-spec.
3 litre is for towing but why have the same old power unit as a D4?
I"m still hunting those that have gone for petrol.MY15 DIY Black Pack (Better than factory and half the price!)
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30th Nov 2016 6:16 pm
RDR
Member Since: 24 Mar 2013
Location: Derbyshire
Posts: 2260
Dealer said don't even think about the 2.0L for my needs (i wasn't anyway) as I'm pretty much towing something all the time and it can be heavy. He gave no science to his comment and it was a bit jovial but that said whilst I'm sure the 2.0L can tow the weight its the style in which it does it that i would want to test. Will it be efficient, can it get you out of trouble when you need a squirt of power, can it maintain speed on accents without running out of puff and how relaxing the drive is as I like the way the 3.0l cruises even with a load and something constantly working the gears would irritate me.
proof is in the pudding i guess.MY06 S - Gone but not forgotten
MY12 HSE - Gone
MY16 HSE Luxury - Sold
MY20 D5 HSE - Sold
Current RR L460 PHEV
30th Nov 2016 6:18 pm
hatjoepeg
Member Since: 13 Apr 2010
Location: Kent
Posts: 98
..............speculative email sent to dealer now to see cost difference for the big boys engine
9th Dec 2016 7:42 am
RDR
Member Since: 24 Mar 2013
Location: Derbyshire
Posts: 2260
Interestingly in the towing weights section of the manual you have to adjust them for the 2.0l for high altitude so it must be cutting them pretty fine.MY06 S - Gone but not forgotten
MY12 HSE - Gone
MY16 HSE Luxury - Sold
MY20 D5 HSE - Sold
Current RR L460 PHEV
9th Dec 2016 8:01 am
Muddy Steve
Member Since: 23 Jan 2015
Location: Holmfirth
Posts: 180
i tow a track car with my D4 when i went to see the new D5 last weekend the guy from Landrover advised i would be better off with the 3l engine for towing, he said the 2l was ok for normal driving but for towing it would be working very hard and put strain on the engineMY16 HSE Firenze Red Loving it
MY14 XS (Gone and missing it like mad)
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9th Dec 2016 8:41 am
wiggs
Member Since: 03 Sep 2006
Location: Manchester
Posts: 14372
£6500 more for the 3.0l engine according to the landrover websiteG4 Gone ...but not forgotten
9th Dec 2016 8:44 am
hatjoepeg
Member Since: 13 Apr 2010
Location: Kent
Posts: 98
On an HSE spec it appears to be 'only' another £1500
Still, I will wait and see what the dealer comes up with...............
9th Dec 2016 8:53 am
wiggs
Member Since: 03 Sep 2006
Location: Manchester
Posts: 14372
On closer inspection ..it does appear to be only £1500 for the HSE
Hope so .. as I'd want the 3.0 engine G4 Gone ...but not forgotten
9th Dec 2016 8:58 am
J77
Member Since: 03 Mar 2008
Location: Fife
Posts: 6270
My salesman said he wouldn't consider a 2.0L full stop.
I'm going for SE and it's only £1.5K difference, well worth it IMO.23.5MY Defender 90 X-Dynamic SE D250 MHEV Pangea Green
9th Dec 2016 9:39 am
hatjoepeg
Member Since: 13 Apr 2010
Location: Kent
Posts: 98
Better residuals on the 3.0l engine so the monthly payment has gone down by now as well!
11th Dec 2016 7:37 am
Red Merle
Member Since: 30 Aug 2014
Location: Liskeard
Posts: 7441
....2011 - 2015: 3 x FL2
2015 - 2017: 2 x D4
2017 to date: FFRR SDV8
2023 to date: 2 x FL2 as “second” cars 🙄
2021 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200
2022 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200 & sidecar!
(One of only two known to exist in the world!)
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11th Dec 2016 7:45 am
Bill Wright
Member Since: 03 Nov 2007
Location: Glorious Devon
Posts: 3254
Remember to factor in from 1 Apr 17 the increased rate of VED (over lower emissions output vehicles) for the first year. In the scheme of things, probably no big deal but money is money. Never take life too seriously. Nobody gets out alive anyway.
D4 SDV6 SE Tech Kaikoura Stone MY15.
11th Dec 2016 7:54 am
petersw
Member Since: 17 Nov 2012
Location: Norfolk
Posts: 1135
Doesn't a new car come with the first year tax paid. Bill?Peter
11th Dec 2016 9:48 am
Someone-Gone
Member Since: 21 Dec 2015
Location: Gone
Posts: 5117
You, as the first owner, are responsible for the VED, which means it gets lumped onto the final bill in one form or another.
Think the D4 was nearly £1k first year first year VED off the top of my head.
"What is happening to car tax in 2017?
The amount of VED you pay will still be based partly on your car's CO2 emissions. However, while the government has been trying to push people into hybrid vehicles by making many of them free to tax, the benefit of choosing one will be substantially reduced after 1 April 2017.
As with today's system, new cars will be divided into 13 different CO2 bands to determine how much you pay in the first year of ownership, but only zero emission vehicles such as electric cars will qualify for the lowest of these and therefore be tax-free.
From the second year onwards, zero-emissions vehicles that cost less than £40,000 remain tax-free; petrol, diesel and hybrid cars that cost less than £40,000 are charged at a flat rate of £140 a year; and cars that cost more than £40,000 attract an additional 'Premium' fee of £310 for years 2-5 of ownership, regardless of their emissions.
This means that electric cars which cost more than £40,000 – and are currently VED free – will no longer be the tax-busting option that they are currently.
Bear in mind, too, that it's the final list price of your car which determines that £40,000 threshold – if you buy a cheaper model, but add options taking it over that price point then you'll still have to pay the Premium fee. In short, an option for a few hundred pounds could end up costing you more than £1500 over five years in extra VED costs.
Even if you negotiate a discount with the dealer that drops the price of the car back under £40,000, you'll have to pay the fee, because the listed price will still be over £40,000. The list price is the price of the car before the 'on-the-road' charges are added, such as a delivery charge, new vehicle registration fee, numberplates and fuel.
Below, you'll find a full table detailing how much you'll have to pay in the first year, and in the years thereafter."
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