Unlike the 2.7V6 diesel in which designers had anticipated the problem...
anyone want to send in the picture of DSL's D3 so they can correct their assumption...? The next American ex-pat that calls it a "truck" is going to find out what 2.7 tons feels like on their foot...
Club "yes, I too have had the EGR's replaced..."
Club "yes, I too have had the compressor replaced..."
Club "yes, I too once had the car at the dealer for a couple of weeksnearly 4 weeksover 4 weeks...5 weeks"
Club "yes, I too have had EPB failure..."
Club "yes, I too get mysterious bings and bongs..."
4th Apr 2011 6:18 am
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Why change the habits of a lifetime!! Cynic in me would say the design flaw is the turbos that only last 5 minutes but I'm not cynical any more.
Wot, no sand either?? Note 2nd body off job to left!
Spot the differences from the new model and old model!!
I know the problem with the turbos is not good, but lifting the body off the chassis is not as extreme as it looks. My local Landrover specialist had one apart the other day when I was there to repair a D3 TDV6. He said that it was not as difficult as it looks as everything just unplugs. He said that round there radiator area was a little tricky but everything else was straightforward and didn't take too long.2.7 D4 eDiff, Traxide Dual battery, Safari Snorkel...Opposite Lock winch bar..extra set 17" wheels with 245/70/17 BFG KM2 MTs..Warrior winch..Long range tank.
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1983 Range Rover 2dr fitted with 300Tdi (with bigger turbo), 40mm body lift, Warn 9000i winch and BFG MT 265/75/16. Rear Maxidrive locker
1976 Landcruiser BJ40 with tipper body for the farm!!
4th Apr 2011 7:23 am
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Jools this is my view also ....not sure it is a "flaw". I think the overall article is very poor for HJ, which normally has a good reputation.21 year LR veteran > D2 GS 2003 > D3 S 2006 > D3 HSE 2009 > D4 HSE 2013 > D4 HSE 2015 > D5 HSE 2018 > DS HSE R-Dynamic P300e 2021
4th Apr 2011 7:36 am
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I don't think it is a flaw either as I doubt they ever said you wouldn't have to take the body off to change it.
They did the same with the belts originally didn't they, the body had to come off and that is a normal maintenance operation.
EDIT: Everytime I read about DSL's turbo I get nervous as I am on the original one still
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4th Apr 2011 8:44 am
DSL Keeper of the wheelie bin
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Found the body off job for my car a few hundred £ cheaper (unless parts are cheaper) than the first replacement, plus I managed to get lots of other stuff done while it was in that state that would have been a lot more difficult.
PS I like the old 'faulty batch' line!
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4th Apr 2011 8:44 am
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What mileage did they fail at and were the replacements new or reconditioned out of interest.
I am always a bit dubious about some reconditioned parts if I am honest.
4th Apr 2011 8:49 am
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Up to 20 months old and 25k miles my motor has had an enormous amount of major part replacements under warranty, including a turbo ....I choose not to whine on about it though.
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I am clutching the edge of the wooden desk like a b d as I type this , but in nearly 7 years of D3 ownership, and getting on for 200k miles, I have never had a turbo fail, and only 1 egr.
4th Apr 2011 3:21 pm
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2 egrs & no turbo. I don't worry if the turbo will fail, if it does, it does.... No more or less than any other turbo related product. ind you, I do give mine a damned good thrashing on a regular basis. Just to keep the turbo vanes freed up of course....Bodsys Brake Bible
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4th Apr 2011 3:23 pm
DSL Keeper of the wheelie bin
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DG wrote:
Up to 20 months old and 25k miles my motor has had an enormous amount of major part replacements under warranty, including a turbo ....I choose not to whine on about it though.
I wouldn't whine on about it if I could get it fixed!!
4th Apr 2011 3:36 pm
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Gareth wrote:
I am clutching the edge of the wooden desk like a b d as I type this , but in nearly 7 years of D3 ownership, and getting on for 200k miles, I have never had a turbo fail, and only 1 egr.
Gareth, I'll say a prayer for you tonight.............
4th Apr 2011 3:40 pm
mickyd4
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Between both my D3 and D4 I have done a mere 52,000 mile of motoring! Not had one mechanical issue whatsoever... Couple of Chrismas tree incidents on the dash (1 airbag light, 1 gearbox fault) and a cutting out glitch when terrain response was in rock crawl... But my two really have been very very dependable...... so far.
If this forum is anything to go by I will have some problem with the D4 at some point... still touchwood so far
4th Apr 2011 10:07 pm
jjvd21
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It looks like the tires in the 2nd body off picture from the Honestjohn article are Michelin Synchrones. Not sure about UK fitment on D4's but they aren't standard tires across the pond. I saw that and thought maybe it was a D3 stock photo and John should have been honest with his pictures.16 D4 Landmark
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