Member Since: 14 Oct 2014
Location: Newquay, Cornwall
Posts: 820
Disco5 - to wait or.....?
Took out a Disco 4 today - well impressed, quiet, smooth and comfy. But maybe I should wait for the new 5 model - due out next year. Taking out a Discovery Sport Friday ... heard the old Freelander engines in them are a bit noisy and unrefined - and not especially economical - maybe I should wait for the new 2ltr engine......
13th May 2015 9:24 pm
747_JK
Member Since: 03 Apr 2010
Location: Surrey
Posts: 268
The so-called Discovery 5 will be expensive, no doubt discount less at first and as a new car, probably plagued with problems. Having learnt the hard way with an early model D4, I would not want a new LR model again, and in fact just plumped for a new Discovery... Hopefully most of the faults ironed out by now, a very good discount available from the dealer and good availability.
Go for it! Get the current Disco... You know you want too!747_JK
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13th May 2015 9:40 pm
Red Merle
Member Since: 30 Aug 2014
Location: Liskeard
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The 5 is likely to be a very different car to the 4. Think 7 seater, high roof, Range Rover Sport. Try an RRS and see if that's what you want, otherwise buy the 4 now, while you still can. Also bear in mind that, going by recent LR launches, expect a big price increase.
If you're going to wait for the Ingenium DS, then wait another 12 months for them to iron out a lot of the bugs. Expect even more cost increases.2011 - 2015: 3 x FL2
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13th May 2015 9:44 pm
discoteca
Member Since: 08 Mar 2010
Location: Warwickshire
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And I don't think you will get a 'D5' actually on your drive until 2017 at the earliest.
13th May 2015 9:51 pm
LT
Member Since: 31 Dec 2005
Location: South West
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The D3/4 suits my needs really well, hence why I've had them for 9 years now. Hopefully the D5 will also suit me, but if it doesn't I'll have a reasonably new D4 which I can keep indefinitely. Or possibly, the Defender replacement, when or if it comes will be more what I'm after.2006 D3 HSE (Original & still the best)-GONE
2010 D4 HSE (A bit bling)-GONE
2014 D4 HSE (Almost too bling)-GONE
2015 D4 HSE (A heated what?)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Written Off)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Surely the last!) PD1881 rims-GONE
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13th May 2015 10:00 pm
Dannyson
Member Since: 14 Oct 2014
Location: Newquay, Cornwall
Posts: 820
Yes - I did think the lead in for the 5 will be longer than forecast. The current Disco has always looked boxy to me and a bit 'last year' compared to my 2009 Landcruiser 150 series. Iconic but dated dare I say ..... classic maybe? I'm not sure.... the Disco Sport looks the part but lacks the presence.... and other bits of course.
13th May 2015 10:02 pm
Dannyson
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Good point LT..... thanks..
13th May 2015 10:03 pm
Dannyson
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I also thought I could keep my Landcruiser indefinitely ... just back from its service - needs new exhaust and a VSR - 'under body corrosion' - which must be something more than usual for Toyota to mention it.... making me think now is the time to get shot before it starts costing more and more - hence the visit to another Marque - first time I have looked elsewhere than Mr T for 12 years or more.... always plumped for Toyota (especially with the bad reliability that LR has had in the very recent past).
13th May 2015 10:09 pm
Red Merle
Member Since: 30 Aug 2014
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Dannyson wrote:
Yes - I did think the lead in for the 5 will be longer than forecast. The current Disco has always looked boxy to me and a bit 'last year' compared to my 2009 Landcruiser 150 series. Iconic but dated dare I say ..... classic maybe? I'm not sure.... the Disco Sport looks the part but lacks the presence.... and other bits of course.
It's an interesting comment about the style of the D4. If not being "last year" is high up on your list, you are probably the sort of buyer that LR is currently courting with their newer designs and the D5 might suit you better. No offence intended, but I wonder if owning Toyota's for that length of time has, maybe unconsciously, left you with the desire to have "this year's" style? I had to google "Toyota Land Cruiser 2009" to remember what one looks like, while I would imagine that very few people would need to do that for the far more recognisable D3/D4 shape. I like the fact that it looks like a modern interpretation of the Defender shape and NUTS to fashion! Fashion is only there to make sure that the fashion conscious have no choice but to keep buying!2011 - 2015: 3 x FL2
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14th May 2015 5:49 am
Laird Lugton
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14th May 2015 8:28 am
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I suppose its not just the fashion - but I take your point - its also maybe 'older technology' - little things like windscreen washers still stuck on the bonnet - no fridge in the centre console - no adaptive headlights and probably other bits I haven't noticed yet. These may be an option - I haven't looked into the options much yet .... its expensive to start with let alone adding more cost! Appreciate all your comments so far though - thanks - making me think for sure.....!
14th May 2015 8:38 am
dubbs
Member Since: 18 Apr 2012
Location: Gloucestershire
Posts: 3626
My old fashioned MY15 D4 has:
3 litre TDV6 with 8 speed adaptive automatic gearbox with steering wheel mounted manual control paddles and sport mode
Cruise control
Heated steering wheel
Remote park heating and ventilation system (either remote control or on a timer)
Heated front and rear screens
Panoramic glass roof
Heated front and rear seats
Memory seats and steering column
Dual zone climate control
rear passenger air con system (completely separate from front with separate controls)
Puddle lights and courtesy lighting, all very posh
Adaptive Xenons (swivel with steering) with cornering lights and "halo/angel" LED DRLs and automatic main beam control which senses cars coming towards you and automatically dips and applies main beam
surround cameras fitted front (x2) rear (x1) and sides (x2) providing side and junction views as well as hitch assist and towing assist for reversing with trailer/caravan attached
Exterior detection pack also includes wade depth sensing, reversing traffic collision detection, blind spot monitoring in the wing mirrors and collision detect on vehicles approaching you fast from the rear, parking distance control
825w 17 speaker Meridian sound system with subwoofer, dolby digital,etc., allowing me to stream audio from my iPhone using spotify, iTunes,etc.,; play movies and music from a usb storage device, play movies from DVD, store CDs on the in built storage, Full DVB-T digital freeview television
Rear entertainment system with wireless headphones, remote control and headrest screens allowing viewing of all sources listed above plus ability to connect a games console
Terrain response, low and high gear ranges and tyre pressure monitoring system
Stop start technology (love or hate it, it's there and provides cheaper road tax!)
Fridge in centre console, removable tow bar
3 years manufacturers warranty and a 5 year servicing pack
...probably other bits I have forgotten....
and above all.... a support forum like no other vehicle I've known. Part of picking another Discovery was undoubtedly the fact this forum makes owning it even more of a pleasure - it really was one of the many considerations!!
So - all in all I'd probably say the misconceptions about "older" tech aren't all that correct. The chassis and body design (accepting some reasonably heavy facelifts) are old/classic/built for purpose
I went for it as you need to think the following way for the D5:
1. Design not released, who knows how practical and whether you like it
2. Better to wait for first facelift,new engine, niggles fixed, than buying the first to arrive in showroom
3. Price hike, it will be 5-6k more expensive
4. Quality, hate to say it but after spending a week in a Discovery Sport it's no Discovery when it comes to fit and finish - if that translates to the Discovery then it's definitely being notched down in the "premium/prestige" fit and finish
5. 2017 for the very first of the new, only live once, buy a current one and enjoy until the new one comes along
6. Tailgate - if it doesn't have a split one then I'm not buying.... it's far too bloody useful!!MY15 DIY Black Pack (Better than factory and half the price!)
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14th May 2015 12:26 pm
Bill Wright
Member Since: 03 Nov 2007
Location: Glorious Devon
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"and above all.... a support forum like no other vehicle I've known. Part of picking another Discovery was undoubtedly the fact this forum makes owning it even more of a pleasure - it really was one of the many considerations!!"
A prime consideration for me when considering whether or not to stay with the Disco marque. Now on my fourth version. Never take life too seriously. Nobody gets out alive anyway.
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14th May 2015 1:46 pm
Red Merle
Member Since: 30 Aug 2014
Location: Liskeard
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Dannyson wrote:
I suppose its not just the fashion - but I take your point - its also maybe 'older technology' - little things like windscreen washers still stuck on the bonnet - no fridge in the centre console - no adaptive headlights and probably other bits I haven't noticed yet. These may be an option - I haven't looked into the options much yet .... its expensive to start with let alone adding more cost! Appreciate all your comments so far though - thanks - making me think for sure.....!
Again, no criticism intended, but it's interesting that you are concerned that it may have "older technology", yet your original reaction was still "well impressed, quiet, smooth and comfy" which, may I presume, is in comparison to the Toyota? Underneath relatively superficial stuff, like where the washer nozzles are mounted, you might even find that the basic technology of the D4 is ahead of the Toyota....2011 - 2015: 3 x FL2
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