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Russell
 


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fisherman wrote:
Have you sat in one?
Have you driven one?
Try it first before you decide, you may be convinced otherwise.


+1
I have sat in it and you will be surprised
 MY17 D5 1st Edition Namib Orange
MY15 D4 HSE Kaikoura Stone
MY12 D4 HSE Nara Bronze Sold and gone
MY11 D4 HSE Stornaway Grey Sold and gone
D3 S spec Silver Sold and gone
Tow bar, full length roof bars, side steps, tow bar storage unit, surround camers.
D4 camera club 
 
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Russell
 


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Re: D5 remote heating

PaulC wrote:
My D4 had an "optional" FBH and remote heating when I bought it. LR wanted about £1k to have it factory fitted. I wonder if it could be configured after - that's what I did with Wiggs' help with a remote for about £300 I seem to recall


You do not need it now as there is an option on lower specs and standard on higher specs to remotely start the car and heat it using the main engine without even unlocking the car
The FBH has been removed all together and is an option under the remote heat pack but is aimed at foreign very cold climates.
 MY17 D5 1st Edition Namib Orange
MY15 D4 HSE Kaikoura Stone
MY12 D4 HSE Nara Bronze Sold and gone
MY11 D4 HSE Stornaway Grey Sold and gone
D3 S spec Silver Sold and gone
Tow bar, full length roof bars, side steps, tow bar storage unit, surround camers.
D4 camera club 
 
Post #171864511th Oct 2016 10:32 pm
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RDR wrote:
D5 Better load carrying capacity on roof but no Expo Rack available and the roof bars don't make it look cool like the D4 ones do they are two high:?

Rear Aircon has returned on the D5 8)

D5 is high but no ladder option Confused

D5 has HDMI inputs Very Happy a truly first world problem i know but I'm excited.

D4 has better load space access (its taller and square).

D4 has jetboil storage vs D5 can store 5 iPads.

I asked when at the VIP tour, can you get a full size washing machine in the boot with row two up and slid right back, the answer was yes with no problems
 MY17 D5 1st Edition Namib Orange
MY15 D4 HSE Kaikoura Stone
MY12 D4 HSE Nara Bronze Sold and gone
MY11 D4 HSE Stornaway Grey Sold and gone
D3 S spec Silver Sold and gone
Tow bar, full length roof bars, side steps, tow bar storage unit, surround camers.
D4 camera club 
 
Post #171864611th Oct 2016 10:34 pm
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Russell
 


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DaveM wrote:
I saw this in the promo vid on YouTube. There might be air assistance in addition but those look like coil springs. I did notice a raise/lower button on another vid so perhaps some height adjustment is possible.



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We asked the same question when at Solihull. They confirmed that all UK spec vehicles have full air suspension which is better than that fitted to D4's with more articulation and movement. they confirmed that the videos and promo stuff covers all markets and hence the pictures with coils
 MY17 D5 1st Edition Namib Orange
MY15 D4 HSE Kaikoura Stone
MY12 D4 HSE Nara Bronze Sold and gone
MY11 D4 HSE Stornaway Grey Sold and gone
D3 S spec Silver Sold and gone
Tow bar, full length roof bars, side steps, tow bar storage unit, surround camers.
D4 camera club 
 
Post #171864811th Oct 2016 10:36 pm
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Russell
 


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crews control wrote:
Packed and ready for another week of hard work... (there's more on the back seat).
Think I've managed to capture in one photo at least three reasons why this is going to have to be my last disco... Big Cry



Best enjoy it while I can. Thumbs Up

Have you been and looked at a D5 in the flesh? I cannot see any reason why you could not do exactly the same in a D5. Only down side for me is the stupid little flap/seat at the back. i can see that being a pain in the A Censored and getting removed very quickly.
 MY17 D5 1st Edition Namib Orange
MY15 D4 HSE Kaikoura Stone
MY12 D4 HSE Nara Bronze Sold and gone
MY11 D4 HSE Stornaway Grey Sold and gone
D3 S spec Silver Sold and gone
Tow bar, full length roof bars, side steps, tow bar storage unit, surround camers.
D4 camera club 
 
Post #171864911th Oct 2016 10:39 pm
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Re: D5 remote heating

Russell wrote:
PaulC wrote:
My D4 had an "optional" FBH and remote heating when I bought it. LR wanted about £1k to have it factory fitted. I wonder if it could be configured after - that's what I did with Wiggs' help with a remote for about £300 I seem to recall


You do not need it now as there is an option on lower specs and standard on higher specs to remotely start the car and heat it using the main engine without even unlocking the car
The FBH has been removed all together and is an option under the remote heat pack but is aimed at foreign very cold climates.


There's remote park heat and timed climate as a £1035 option- is that what you mean? I wonder if it may lend itself to a little hacking by aftermarket specialists..
  
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defector
 


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I was under the impression that it was illegal to leave a vehicle running without the person in charge being in control of the vehicle.
The same reason turbo timers were always disabled in cars brought to this country.
Maybe there is a different aspect of law with the new system but i am not aware of it.
  
Post #171865311th Oct 2016 10:51 pm
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Russell
 


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Re: D5 remote heating

PaulC wrote:
Russell wrote:
PaulC wrote:
My D4 had an "optional" FBH and remote heating when I bought it. LR wanted about £1k to have it factory fitted. I wonder if it could be configured after - that's what I did with Wiggs' help with a remote for about £300 I seem to recall


You do not need it now as there is an option on lower specs and standard on higher specs to remotely start the car and heat it using the main engine without even unlocking the car
The FBH has been removed all together and is an option under the remote heat pack but is aimed at foreign very cold climates.


There's remote park heat and timed climate as a £1035 option- is that what you mean? I wonder if it may lend itself to a little hacking by aftermarket specialists..

Apparently that is the option to instal a FBH as in D4's currently.
The other option is I believe a no cost option fitted as standard to some vehicles and an option for others. This method does not use a FBH nut the main engine is started remotely whilst the vehicle is locked, apparently this is already available on Evouqes
 MY17 D5 1st Edition Namib Orange
MY15 D4 HSE Kaikoura Stone
MY12 D4 HSE Nara Bronze Sold and gone
MY11 D4 HSE Stornaway Grey Sold and gone
D3 S spec Silver Sold and gone
Tow bar, full length roof bars, side steps, tow bar storage unit, surround camers.
D4 camera club 
 
Post #171865611th Oct 2016 10:57 pm
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Russell
 


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defector wrote:
I was under the impression that it was illegal to leave a vehicle running without the person in charge being in control of the vehicle.
The same reason turbo timers were always disabled in cars brought to this country.
Maybe there is a different aspect of law with the new system but i am not aware of it.


That was my thought as well and I raised that at the factory but apparently it is legal to do this provided the vehicle is secure............
 MY17 D5 1st Edition Namib Orange
MY15 D4 HSE Kaikoura Stone
MY12 D4 HSE Nara Bronze Sold and gone
MY11 D4 HSE Stornaway Grey Sold and gone
D3 S spec Silver Sold and gone
Tow bar, full length roof bars, side steps, tow bar storage unit, surround camers.
D4 camera club 
 
Post #171865711th Oct 2016 10:58 pm
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crews control
 


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Russell wrote:
Have you been and looked at a D5 in the flesh?

Yes I have and it doesn't work for me or the equipment I need to carry. If you need four seats, the usable space for luggage is significantly reduced simply because almost every angle is curved. On top of that the very large tailgate hits the roof of my garage. Also don't get me started on the silly ledge I'm supposed to think replaces my split tailgate / kit preparation area!

I was angry and moaned for a while, but I'm over that now. I'm sure they'll sell loads initially but when you add up some reasonable options on top of a v6 engine (single turbo), it's a lot of money for a car I don't like that much. There's a lot of competition in that price bracket.

When LR announced the re-branding of the three marques: Range Rover, Discovery and Defender, I was optimistic about their future and I think it was an idea we could all understand. Now that the Discovery is in effect a large Range Rover, the branding has all gone a bit pete tong.

If I want a vehicle at that price that isn't capable of carrying all the kit I need, I can buy a Range Rover! Rolling Eyes
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Swiss-LR
 


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Andrew Hebron
 


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crews control wrote:
Yes I have and it doesn't work for me or the equipment I need to carry. If you need four seats, the usable space for luggage is significantly reduced simply because almost every angle is curved. On top of that the very large tailgate hits the roof of my garage. Also don't get me started on the silly ledge I'm supposed to think replaces my split tailgate / kit preparation area!

When LR announced the re-branding of the three marques: Range Rover, Discovery and Defender, I was optimistic about their future and I think it was an idea we could all understand. Now that the Discovery is in effect a large Range Rover, the branding has all gone a bit pete tong.


^^I agree, but remember that this is LR's attack on the X5 market in which it has been totally out-sold. My hope is that the Defender replacement will be pitched more at those of us you need the pure kit carrying / towing / off-roading capability, leaving the Discovery for the more lucrative 'leisure' market. That's the hope, anyway. In the meantime, I'll get a D4 run-out model.
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AndrewS
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I agree the D5 is now basically a RRS/FFRR with a different body on. The high Spec D5 is in FFRR territory, however the FFRR is going up market so there will be a void to fill. JLR appear to be slotting the high spec D5 into this slot.

There are supposed to be three of each vehicle with different spec options:-

Range Rover:- has FFRR, RRS and Evoque all with different trim options.

Discovery:- currently has Sport and high spec D5, so whats the 3rd going to be? the only option left to fill is a more utility version?

Defender:- will have 90, 110, 130 equivalents with 3 spec levels for each vehicle.

So in theory you could buy a high spec 110 that would be better equipped that a low spec Discovery utility.

This is how I see it from reading comments from JLR, clearly I could be wrong.
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Russell wrote:
RDR wrote:
D5 Better load carrying capacity on roof but no Expo Rack available and the roof bars don't make it look cool like the D4 ones do they are two high:?

Rear Aircon has returned on the D5 8)

D5 is high but no ladder option Confused

D5 has HDMI inputs Very Happy a truly first world problem i know but I'm excited.

D4 has better load space access (its taller and square).

D4 has jetboil storage vs D5 can store 5 iPads.

I asked when at the VIP tour, can you get a full size washing machine in the boot with row two up and slid right back, the answer was yes with no problems


Dealer has promised to send me the height of the opening when he gets hold of it, it is less he says and not a published figure. Im more interested in it for the dogs however washing machines standing up will still be handy. Hope it passes the full size sofa test as the d4 does Thumbs Up
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MY16 HSE Luxury - Sold
MY20 D5 HSE - Sold
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Washing machine will stand up in the back, this was in the design criteria.
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