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Risking sacrilege for a moment, the D4 isn't a pretty car. What it is is brutal, industrial design at its best. It's a firm statement of intent. It's one of those designs that doesn't need a badge or a grille to inform anyone of what it is - unless they've been living under a stone since WWII...
The D5 is just another "pretty" car.
Despite being much less pretty, perversely, the D4 is the better looking car by a long shot! 2011 - 2015: 3 x FL2
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The D5 rear end is wrong....its one that the stylist took over from the thinking head designer......the thought was MPV as opposed to SUV
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19th Nov 2016 7:27 pm
RRSTDV8
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Chawks wrote:
The D5 rear end looks wrong.
The same thing was said about the RRS2 when it was released. Lots of people really didn't like the back end.
Seems to me that the only modern LR with a resolved rear end is the FFRR. It's also the only one without the two tone plastic "nappy" below the rear bumper.
I think the FFRR is the best looking LR new product now.Visiting from rrsport.co.uk
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19th Nov 2016 7:47 pm
Chawks
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I like the look of the RRS2. If you cover the rear end of the D5 it looks very similar to the RRS2. But uncover it and it just doesn't look good, can't quite put my finger on what exactly is wrong with it. I'm sure its a lovely car inside and very capable. I haven't seen it in the flesh so won't write it off just yet....not that I can afford one .I'll stick to my old Defender for now
19th Nov 2016 10:19 pm
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RRSTDV8 wrote:
Chawks wrote:
The D5 rear end looks wrong.
The same thing was said about the RRS2 when it was released. Lots of people really didn't like the back end.
Seems to me that the only modern LR with a resolved rear end is the FFRR. It's also the only one without the two tone plastic "nappy" below the rear bumper.
I think the FFRR is the best looking LR new product now.
Yes distinctive
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20th Nov 2016 7:42 am
Red Merle
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I did take a FFRR out to try before buying another D4 recently. Unfortunately, the tailgate lacks that incredibly useful split height of the D3/4. Surprisingly, compared to the D4, we also found it a bit too car like for us.
I'd agree with you though, it's still the most distinctive of the range and probably the best looking too. I'm pretty sure that Gerry McGovern must have noticed this and is probably working on fixing this right now!2011 - 2015: 3 x FL2
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20th Nov 2016 8:00 am
petersw
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Too curved perhaps ?
Peter
20th Nov 2016 8:00 am
Red Merle
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It could be worse; it's not, full on, Victorian bath tub curvy, it looks much more like a corned beef tin
2011 - 2015: 3 x FL2
2015 - 2017: 2 x D4
2017 to date: FFRR SDV8
2023 to date: 2 x FL2 as “second” cars 🙄
2021 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200
2022 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200 & sidecar!
(One of only two known to exist in the world!)
20th Nov 2016 8:09 am
Bill Wright
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Red Merle wrote:
I'm pretty sure that Gerry McGovern must have noticed this and is probably working on fixing this right now!
Never take life too seriously. Nobody gets out alive anyway.
Yep, the FFRR is the most appealing to me now, just so long as it's not blinged-up, and yeah, it looks so much cleaner without the stupid @rse-piece.
Nice clean lines...
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Risking sacrilege for a moment, the D4 isn't a pretty car. What it is is brutal, industrial design at its best. It's a firm statement of intent. It's one of those designs that doesn't need a badge or a grille to inform anyone of what it is - unless they've been living under a stone since WWII...
The D5 is just another "pretty" car.
Despite being much less pretty, perversely, the D4 is the better looking car by a long shot!
I would describe it as it as "functional elegance". Current: Discovery 3 06MY (55 reg) HSE Auto Zambezi Silver Allisport Fast Road Intercooler, V8 Brakes, Silicone IC Hoses, EGRs Blanked, Remapped, De-Cat pipe, FBHIC
Freelander 2 2007 HSE Manual Tambora Flame
Previous: FL2 56 reg SE Manual Black (written off )
Disco 3 06 reg B7S Manual Rimini Red
Disco 2 TD5 Y reg ES Manual Blue - Chipped
Several Discovery 300 TDis
20th Nov 2016 9:22 am
euangibson
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The backside of the D5 is the laziest piece of design I've seen in ages....completely out of proportion and looks like a design afterthought.....an ugly featureless slab,tacked on once they'd run out of ideas (or time,or money or all 3)....
Can you tell I'm not happy with the back ?
Still,I'm sure Nicki Minaj will buy one....
"Better to remain silent and be thought a fool,than to speak out and remove all doubt" ?.....what rubbish...
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20th Nov 2016 9:31 am
Red Merle
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Lost for Words wrote:
Yep, the FFRR is the most appealing to me now, just so long as it's not blinged-up, and yeah, it looks so much cleaner without the stupid @rse-piece.
Nice clean lines...
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...and left out of the freezer too long...
Click image to enlarge
I take back the "pretty" comment, that's downright ugly! The FFRR shares the same "functional elegance" (thank you, LfW) as the D4.
Now, please stop drawing Gerry McGovern's attention to this, before he heads over to the FFRR production line in Solihull with the biggest Ugly Stick in his not inconsiderable armory! 2011 - 2015: 3 x FL2
2015 - 2017: 2 x D4
2017 to date: FFRR SDV8
2023 to date: 2 x FL2 as “second” cars 🙄
2021 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200
2022 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200 & sidecar!
(One of only two known to exist in the world!)
20th Nov 2016 9:32 am
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I'll bet FFRR aficionados are getting worried about the possible ways this could go
The Top of The Heap....has to go far higher to compete...the Bentley bentago is the new bench mark
Totally unaffordable but worth looking...
It has an activity platform believe it or not....so who copied who ?BREXIT - done properly.
Right now ...We need Government - not Politics
Save the Dipstick Flagbearer-keep it simple, less likely to fail campaign-agenda items:Starting Handles, Acetylene Lamps.
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Jag XK-but sadly no DIPSTICK...HUGE design fault
FL2 has DIPSTICK..."real comfort in rear seats"
VW Golf wondermobile (?)..has real DIPSTICK
Morris Minor..original DIPSTICK technology..and a real KEY.
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Allisport Fast Road Intercooler, V8 Brakes, Silicone IC Hoses, EGRs Blanked, Remapped, De-Cat pipe, FBHIC
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The FFRR shares the same "functional elegance" (thank you, LfW) as the D4.
