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Not particularly busy motorway, ambulance with blues and twos, every car in outside lane, probably 15 or so, waited until it was right behind them to even start thinking of pulling over! Hope none of them ever need an ambulance!Joined the BMWX5 45e group
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15th May 2019 2:43 pm
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-regularly see that sort of thing around the M6/M5/M40/M42 ring
They should get a double dose of points and fines, then have a serious talking to from a paramedic who has been delayed by such drivers.Rob Smith
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Not entirely unrelated to the above. This morning I was fortunate enough to follow the somewhat random route suggested by my sat nav from the hotel near Kings Langley down to Uxbridge. Ordinarily this is just M25 to M40, but today it wanted to take me the scenic route. Later found out there had been a serious accident between Jn17 and 18, and that they closed everything down to land the air ambulance.
Blissfully unaware of the cause, I followed the nav and ended up joining the M25 for the last 5 miles from 17 to 16. It was clear the motorway was closed north of 17 as I pretty much had the motorway to myself. Except.....
Cruise on 75, in lane 1, I caught up with and passed half a dozen other cars doing circa 60 and every one of them was in lane 2, 3 or even 4, *with nothing in front or next to them*
Every one of them would have joined at Jn17, there's no off-slip for 5 miles, so they had clearly just driven on to the motorway and headed straight for whatever lane they default to with no cause to be in anything other than lane 1.
The in lane 4 even gave me the bird when I pulled out from lane 1 and came up behind him indicating a desire to overtake. He was doing 60.
We are long overdue a tightening on driving standards. We'd solve half the traffic jams in this country overnight by simply banning these clowns from having a license. I'm baffled how some of these folk ever passed a test (although from what I saw today I suspect International Driving Licenses may have a part to play).
That's my goat caught for today I know it's not considered "kind" to say no these days, but no. Just no, ok? And if it's not ok, still no.
15th May 2019 6:03 pm
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20th May 2019 6:49 pm
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NoDo$h wrote:
Cruise on 75, in lane 1, I caught up with and passed half a dozen other cars doing circa 60 and every one of them was in lane 2, 3 or even 4, *with nothing in front or next to them*
Every one of them would have joined at Jn17, there's no off-slip for 5 miles, so they had clearly just driven on to the motorway and headed straight for whatever lane they default to with no cause to be in anything other than lane 1.
The in lane 4 even gave me the bird when I pulled out from lane 1 and came up behind him indicating a desire to overtake. He was doing 60.
Just carry on in lane 1.Visiting from rrsport.co.uk
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20th May 2019 8:06 pm
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20th May 2019 8:32 pm
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20th May 2019 9:13 pm
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Why do people not understand what an emergency vehicle with blues and twos on mean?
Travelling to work today heard the twos a quick look in the mirror about a 100 yards behind was an ambulance on blues and twos with another car between us.
Signalled left and pulled over in first safe place. Idiot driver behind just carried on their merry way.
The few seconds delay in an individual car journey is nothing compared to the minutes it could land up costing an emergency vehicle on a possible life saving mission.
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20th May 2019 9:14 pm
leeds
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It's tempting at times, but you never know when some Mr Magoo will decide to meander left and if I'm mid undertake I'm at fault, regardless of the ineptitude of the lane hog. Them breaking rule doesn't allow me to ignore other relevant rules.
Unfortunately I know it's not considered "kind" to say no these days, but no. Just no, ok? And if it's not ok, still no.
NoD0$h ... you were under the impression they were having mechanical difficulties as their slow speed was abnormal, so you got out of the way in case they stopped suddenly on the carriageway.
As for "goats" ... it was bad enough having zero-alcohol wine last night but a monstrous fly decided to bathe in it when i wasn't looking. as soon as i had a drink, i guessed what it was and spat it back in the glass. Huge f r ... left me retching for a good 5 minutes. Then went to bed dreaming about a certain Jeff Goldbloom film ... needless to say, this morning i don't feel like i slept at all.
21st May 2019 7:01 am
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NoDo$h wrote:
RRSTDV8 wrote:
Just carry on in lane 1.
Rules 267 and 268 say otherwise.
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Rule 268
Do not overtake on the left or move to a lane on your left to overtake. In congested conditions, where adjacent lanes of traffic are moving at similar speeds, traffic in left-hand lanes may sometimes be moving faster than traffic to the right. In these conditions you may keep up with the traffic in your lane even if this means passing traffic in the lane to your right. Do not weave in and out of lanes to overtake.
You can continue in a faster inside lane if traffic conditions are such that the outer lanes are slower than yours. Of course, you might have to argue the definition of "congested conditions" but if the outer lanes are full then they're congested.
I've seen this on the new 4 lane section of the M5 north of the M50. Lanes 3 and 4 full (nose to tail) and doing 60 if they're lucky. Lanes 1 and 2 basically empty, Lane 1 has the usual occasional lorry. Just sit in Lane 1 and if the outer lanes slow down, then you're "entitled" to continue at your pace. Having lane 2 as a buffer makes it a safer situation, of course.
I wouldn't do it unless there was a hard shoulder or other lane available to use for avoiding action in the case of Mr Magoo.
It's important not to weave to make use of the inner lane, of course. That's bang-to-rights overtaking on the inside.Visiting from rrsport.co.uk
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21st May 2019 7:41 am
KenR
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At least they pulled over for the ambulance, it’s the idiots who don’t use their mirrors and suddenly realize there is a vehicle with blues and twos behind them and slam in the brakes. It happened to me in a past life I when had occasions to drive our response vehicle but I am sure there are those on here who have had more scary incidents.
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in lane 4 even gave me the bird when I pulled out from lane 1 and came up behind him indicating a desire to overtake. He was doing 60.
