Member Since: 03 Jul 2017
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Paul19 wrote:
Now one is wondering if you can down rate the MAM on a trailer plate to 750kg. Going back to the point that some very small caravans weigh less than 750kg but have a MAM more than this,
very probably not...
The trailer would have to be approved at that weight and an appropriate recognised plate or supporting documentation supplied.
Pretty sure you would be hard pushed to achieve that.
Caravans and mass produced trailers / chassis are type approved and labelled to suit.
Not sure how this applies to home built though?If things were meant to be easy, then I will soon complicate them....
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16th Aug 2017 12:32 pm
Northanys mike
Member Since: 08 Feb 2017
Location: Northampton
Posts: 33
You can downgrade the rating. It just needs 're plating. Going the otherwise however is very difficult.
16th Aug 2017 5:01 pm
Kfitz
Member Since: 14 Aug 2017
Location: Somerset
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B+e
I passed my test in Ireland in 1994 and when asked for b+e to be added to my licence was told no to sit test .Even if passed b before 1997 has to be passed in UK
16th Aug 2017 5:06 pm
GLYNNE
Member Since: 06 Oct 2006
Location: KENT
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I'm glad that's cleared things up
Funny how everyone reads the rules differently
16th Aug 2017 6:27 pm
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16th Aug 2017 6:51 pm
Grianaig
Member Since: 08 Jul 2014
Location: Tyne and Wear
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I passed my test nearly sixty years ago. Gave up caravanning when the series 2a was nicked. Don't understand all these new regs. Don't much understand anything. 2014 MY Discovery XS Indus Silver. Sadly gone. Second last LR of forty eight years continuous ownership.
16th Aug 2017 7:22 pm
Farmer Chalk
Member Since: 06 Mar 2013
Location: Independent Republic of Kentishshire.
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kev_blizard wrote:
As I see it from some who has his D+E hgv1 you can tow a trailer upto 750kg braked or unbraked on your B licence but if you wish to tow anything heavier you need to gain an E entitlement to your B ( car licence ) that's why we see learner drivers towing a trailer gain there E entitlement
J@mes why do you think this is wrong? . ..... I think it's exactly right!
16th Aug 2017 7:49 pm
JackNorris
Member Since: 06 Jul 2012
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It's right on one part but doesn't mention the fact that a 2000kg car could tow a 1500kg trailer under the 'can't exceed 3500kg train.
So for example
I used to tow with my 2200kg Nissan xtrail a 1500kg Ifor downplated to 1300kg.
However, I couldn't tow this on my discovery and had to take the b+e although I could tow my small garden trailers as they were under 750kg, braked or unbraked is irrelevant, people say unbraked as typically you see brakes only on trailers over 750kgMY2023 Discovery 5 R-Dynamic 3.0
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16th Aug 2017 8:03 pm
J@mes
Member Since: 10 Nov 2008
Location: Bomber County
Posts: 4547
Farmer Chalk wrote:
kev_blizard wrote:
As I see it from some who has his D+E hgv1 you can tow a trailer upto 750kg braked or unbraked on your B licence but if you wish to tow anything heavier you need to gain an E entitlement to your B ( car licence ) that's why we see learner drivers towing a trailer gain there E entitlement
J@mes why do you think this is wrong? . ..... I think it's exactly right!
Because you can tow a trailer that exceeds 750KG provided the total train MAM doesn't exceed 3500KG.
It's been covered multiple times in this thread already, with links and quotes to .Gov websites that quote this rule:
Licences issued from 1 January 1997
If you passed your car driving test on or after 1 January 1997 you can:
drive a car or van up to 3,500kg maximum authorised mass (MAM) towing a trailer of up to 750kg MAM
tow a trailer over 750kg MAM as long as the combined MAM of the trailer and towing vehicle is no more than 3,500kg
16th Aug 2017 8:20 pm
Farmer Chalk
Member Since: 06 Mar 2013
Location: Independent Republic of Kentishshire.
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Sorry .... fair comment.... he was half right! . But in essence he's right with the proviso
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16th Aug 2017 8:22 pm
J@mes
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16th Aug 2017 8:23 pm
Farmer Chalk
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I now work in the construction and utility industry and it's a real nightmare the number of lads who are unaware of the regs.... we are constantly having issues with 'youngsters' not being able to tow a trailer or mini digger especially behind a transit!
16th Aug 2017 8:26 pm
Mogwyth
Member Since: 03 Oct 2014
Location: Pwllheli
Posts: 3976
Northanys mike wrote:
You can downgrade the rating. It just needs 're plating. Going the otherwise however is very difficult.
That depends, if a trailer is plated below its max (as many caravans are) then the manufacturer can supply certification and new plate to the maxium, at a cost of course.==================================
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16th Aug 2017 8:34 pm
RandomKamikaze
Member Since: 10 Dec 2014
Location: Berkshire
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Farmer Chalk wrote:
I now work in the construction and utility industry and it's a real nightmare the number of lads who are unaware of the regs.... we are constantly having issues with 'youngsters' not being able to tow a trailer or mini digger especially behind a transit!
If you want even more issues ask them about the difference in speed limits between a transit and a car
21st Aug 2017 9:07 am
Mogwyth
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I went on a speed awareness course a while ago and no one else in the room realised that vans have different speed limits, in fact apart from HGVs they were mostly umaware of speed limits other than those posted!==================================
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