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mse
Member Since: 27 Jun 2005
Location: Shropshire
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Yeah, don't start the stupidity when you get to c1 and c and towing.
You can have a b+e and tow say 7t but on a full c you can't tow more than 750kg. So as an example drop the motorhome on a trailer and tow it behind the disco or defender switch the set up and it's a no as it needs c1 or c +e
I did read there is talk of the b 3500kg being increased...believe it when I see it! Apparently pressure is from caravan and motorhome manufacturers
Of and speed limits are equally funny as in Europe 3500kg is the speed change, in the uk 3050 unladen weight is the defining national speed weight.
It's involved (not complicated) but no common sense was applied and someone clearly didn't think it all through Mike
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 28th Aug 2017 11:21 pm |
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Sloss
Member Since: 18 Aug 2013
Location: Aberdeenish
Posts: 1691
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Can anyone explain the logic that allows towing a 750kg or less trailer without passing a test but require a test for heavier trailers?
Reversing a small trailer tucked up behind you is a lot more difficult that reversing a big one you can actually see!
Braking hard, especially on a bend, with a small trailer with no brakes on it can lead to the cart in front of the horse.
So my simple logic makes me think that ANY trailer towing should be subject to a test or maybe not but splitting out <750kg does not make sense to me.
As others have said I'm 70 odd now so can tow big or small as I have done for 50 years or so! Stew,
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| 29th Aug 2017 8:30 am |
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Rmacaul
Member Since: 05 Apr 2017
Location: Angus
Posts: 136
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It is all as clear as mud.... and it all comes out of trying to align with Europe and have found the confusion is epic.
If you only have B on your licence invest the time and money to pass the test and get E before they shift the bar again 
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| 29th Aug 2017 12:29 pm |
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mse
Member Since: 27 Jun 2005
Location: Shropshire
Posts: 2707
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They have already change the +E and the licences 2013 was a licence change Mike
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| 29th Aug 2017 1:14 pm |
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ostosix
Member Since: 19 Mar 2017
Location: Lincoln
Posts: 324
 
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Doing a trailer lesson/assessment friday. Four hours for £140 then chap will book the test. He said most folks been working with trailers a while are ready after a brush up session. i'll let you know how it goes.
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| 29th Aug 2017 3:13 pm |
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Northanys mike
Member Since: 08 Feb 2017
Location: Northampton
Posts: 33
 
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When I did mine he said it was just to blow out the bad habits. Towing and reversing were fine.
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| 29th Aug 2017 3:41 pm |
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mse
Member Since: 27 Jun 2005
Location: Shropshire
Posts: 2707
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Its easy to make silly mistakes on the tow test though - its also a higher standard (supposedly HGV standard) which i know throws a lot of people.
Eitherway, do it by the numbers and you should be ok Mike
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| 29th Aug 2017 6:18 pm |
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ostosix
Member Since: 19 Mar 2017
Location: Lincoln
Posts: 324
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From what ive seen on youtube its the basics plus things like not blocking exits or turns with the car and trailer. A bit of learning now and then wont do me any harm.
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| 29th Aug 2017 9:23 pm |
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DiscoDunc
Member Since: 08 May 2006
Location: Bristol
Posts: 16390
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if you already have the entitlement because you passed your test before 1997, then do the test and fail.... do you loose the entitlement ? Duncan
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| 30th Aug 2017 3:34 pm |
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Member Since: 17 Mar 2010
Location: Stay at Home. One of the lives you save could be your own.
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You deserve to loose it for being stupid! A vaccine does not stop you catching a virus, or passing it on, or getting ill from it, really ill. It does reduce the likelyhood of you dying when really, really ill. Stay Alive - KEEP AWAY FROM PEOPLE.
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| 30th Aug 2017 8:34 pm |
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JackNorris
Member Since: 06 Jul 2012
Location: Beds/Bucks Border
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DiscoDunc wrote:if you already have the entitlement because you passed your test before 1997, then do the test and fail.... do you loose the entitlement ?
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| 30th Aug 2017 9:03 pm |
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