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Maybe they are making room for the new Deafner and this new RR models malarkie is a smoke screen.
Or maybe not.
11th Jun 2018 5:37 pm
Red Merle
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Releasing capacity and then making it redundant if you read the entire article DG.2011 - 2015: 3 x FL2
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2023 to date: FL2 as a second car
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11th Jun 2018 5:38 pm
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How many models do you think are built on the same line at Solihull ...if they closed "the line" they wouldn't be building anything.
11th Jun 2018 5:44 pm
kajtzu
Member Since: 11 Aug 2017
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Re: JLR announce that ALL Disco production to move to Slovakia!!
Red Merle wrote:
See BBC. That’s ALL production, not part of it!
BBC is showing a picture of the real deal - early model year D4. They must have been digging the archives
In any case, I would imagine that there are many benefits in moving to Slovakia, one being lower labor costs... that is something which cannot easily be fixed.
11th Jun 2018 5:57 pm
DSL Keeper of the wheelie bin
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Or they’ve secretly binned the D5.
11th Jun 2018 5:59 pm
Nubber99
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BigFatPhil wrote:
Not sure I understand why this is old news........the previous position was that production was to be at both sites, my dealer had told me that the UK market would still be serviced by Solihull......was that not your understanding?
The original position was to be two sites, but LR told Sky News this:
At a Number 10 meeting in July, Jaguar Land Rover boss Ralph Speth is understood to have directed a "heated" monologue on the impact of no deal and no transition on the car industry towards the PM.
Top JLR boss Andy Goss told Sky News that its investment in a car plant in Slovakia should now be seen as a "hedge" against uncertainty around the post-Brexit trading environment.
"It's become a hedge by default - we will assess everything in the cold light of day - we don't expect to do it, but if we have to we will," he told me.
Which makes sense. Without CU+SM, car production will become uneconomic in the UK.
11th Jun 2018 6:00 pm
kajtzu
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One can always hope
11th Jun 2018 6:07 pm
BigFatPhil
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It only makes sense (from a business perspective) if the demand stays the same.....
I'm sure JLR will have researched this and have determined that it makes sense, but I sit within one of their key target customer segments, of those who bought and stayed loyal to their products partly because they were made in the UK. It will depend how many share my viewpoint as to whether it then makes sense overall, but remove the made in UK part and I as a 15 year Discovery customer walk away, along with my 2 planned hybrid purchases of a D5 and RRS.......
11th Jun 2018 6:13 pm
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I know a fair few peeps that buy British and put up with what JLR put out because it is British, just a bit better than the British Leyland days. Now the Disco is made in E Europe for a Indian company that incentive is gone. May as well buy Skoda or Volvo and get the reliability.
11th Jun 2018 6:27 pm
RRSTDV8
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If it's built in Slovakia it'll probably be better built and more reliable than the stuff built by Brummies.
One might also hope that the likely cheaper build costs (cheaper than paying Brummies, no doubt), LR might see fit to lower the D5's price.
Lower price and better build. What's not to like?Visiting from rrsport.co.uk
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11th Jun 2018 6:41 pm
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It’ll be built to Brummie spec, just the workers will enjoy cheaper beer.
And LR drop their prices, in yer dreams.
11th Jun 2018 7:02 pm
gstuart
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wonder if they will also build there new “ Road rover “at halewood
11th Jun 2018 7:04 pm
Red Merle
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Do any other countries decry their workers in the way that the British seem to have such a talent for? It seems to be part of the culture.
I’ve had six Land Rovers now and I’m on my third Hinckley built Triumph and it’s all been good stuff. The Triumphs are better built than any of the Suzuki’s, the Yamaha or the Honda’s that I owned before, while the Land Rovers are the equal of any of the Volvo’s that I’ve owned and are darn sight better than my solitary Nissan, a fleets of Peugeot’s and Citroen’s, amongst many others.
Occasionally it’s worth thinking about before wishing yet more well paid, skilled and productive jobs abroad.
I’m no nationalist, but I do see the financial need to produce (rather than just import) and feel some degree of pride when we can actually build something half decent that sets us apart from BMW driving, McDonalds eating, Costa Coffee sipping, multinational blandness.
That’s good, I feel better now 2011 - 2015: 3 x FL2
2015 - 2017: 2 x D4
2017 to date: FFRR SDV8
2023 to date: FL2 as a second car
2021 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200
2022 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200 & sidecar!
(One of only two known to exist in the world!)
11th Jun 2018 7:28 pm
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There are issues facing JLR in relation to capacity ...until they have plant, they cannot push or expand the model range towards the desired production values of the competition.
There are issues in UK & EU due to diesel demonisation and 'potentially' brexit, which may alter the course of their long term strategy ...throw in the required hyperdrive towards electric \ hybrid and that piles the pressure on...I see this change to total D5 production in Slovakia as just that, a dynamic strategic move to reflect the changing landscape. As much as I would prefer that all production stayed in the UK .. we have already seen production in Brazil and China.
Ultimately, you have to look at the whole .... where they were, where they wanted to go...and where they are now. Things change along the way and they have to adapt to that.
11th Jun 2018 7:31 pm
Mogwyth
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Probably planned all along the Slovenia plant has a 150,000 vehicle capacity, D5 would only take 10-15% of that.==================================
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