disco3dave
Member Since: 26 Jun 2012
Location: Banbury, Oxfordshire
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so its time to change the torque converter on the d3. after some advise as to which is the best way to remove it and any tricks please, it doesnt seem to bad to get out but have heard stories about the very top bolts on the bell housing. i will hopefully be removing it with the help of my father and only using ramps/jacks and axle stands (if this is possible) any how to's and own experiances would be great. 
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disco3dave
Member Since: 26 Jun 2012
Location: Banbury, Oxfordshire
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they are indeed very heay as i have discoduncs one in my shed. we will also have a pallet tolley to assist us, and also been eating lots of spinach which should help  what we are really looking at is 1 - is it possble to drop the box from below or 2- is it a body off or engine out job
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| 26th Jul 2013 9:55 pm |
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Kingmav66
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I would listen to Mikey
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Disco_Mikey
Member Since: 29 May 2007
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The box does come out from underneath.
The gearbox crossmember bolts tend to seize inside the tubes in the crossmember, and need a bit of heat to remove.
Top bellhousing bolts are awkward and fiddly, as are the crossover pipe supports. Make sure these go back in, as the pipe will crack if not
Torque convertor bolts are bloody fiddly
Otherwise its fine, until it comes to lifting the box out of the hole
It will catch on the turbo support bracket, and the fuel filter bracket, so needs wiggled out
When refitting the box, make sure the torque convertor is fully home in the oil pump housing. If not, when the box is bolted to the engine, the torque convertor is mashed into the gearbox oil pump, and there will be no drive
Also, make sure the wiring loom does not get trapped between the engine and the bellhousing. Have seen it done before My D3 Build Thread
TDV8 Retrofit Build Thread
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disco3dave
Member Since: 26 Jun 2012
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i was waiting for mikey to reply as it seems that he has a hell of a lot of knowledge about d3's, maybe it might be worth my while renting some garage space to do the job, i would like to give it a go a it keeps the costs down and dont mind getting my hands dirty
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| 26th Jul 2013 10:02 pm |
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disco3dave
Member Since: 26 Jun 2012
Location: Banbury, Oxfordshire
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going to allow myself 2 days to carry out the change, just worried out the bloody bolts at the top. any advise or what i need to remove to get to them easier. cheers
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| 26th Jul 2013 10:05 pm |
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disco3dave
Member Since: 26 Jun 2012
Location: Banbury, Oxfordshire
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many thanks for the advice mikey  , have used dr tranny and also had a flush at 4 tec but the oil in the box starts to go black and smells burnt within a matter of months and then judders return. wish me luck
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| 26th Jul 2013 10:13 pm |
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race.it
Member Since: 15 Oct 2011
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Dave, if u are doing it on a day that I am around, I can help, bring my tools, stands etc.
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| 27th Jul 2013 12:07 am |
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disco3dave
Member Since: 26 Jun 2012
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Cheers race.it sounds like a plan, won't be until a least a few weeks as off to France but will let you know when I'm back
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| 27th Jul 2013 7:33 am |
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A7grenade
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| Re: auto box removal to fit new torque converter -how to- ad |
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disco3dave wrote:so its time to change the torque converter on the d3. after some advise as to which is the best way to remove it and any tricks please, it doesnt seem to bad to get out but have heard stories about the very top bolts on the bell housing. i will hopefully be removing it with the help of my father and only using ramps/jacks and axle stands (if this is possible) any how to's and own experiances would be great.
sorry old post but what were symptoms of torque converter going?
my 06 auto has just lost all drive 1933 austin riley 1963 lambretta Li150
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disco3dave
Member Since: 26 Jun 2012
Location: Banbury, Oxfordshire
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My car still runs and drives fine apart from hills and slight inclines where it then decides to shudder. Sounds like you might have a broken shaft, have you tried it in rock crawl to see if it moved.
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| 2nd Aug 2013 7:58 pm |
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blue200tdi
Member Since: 23 Sep 2012
Location: Lincoln
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Quote:sorry old post but what were symptoms of torque converter going?
my 06 auto has just lost all drive
Try the gear linkage before doing anything else. If it is seized it will give the symptoms of no drive...if you're lucky. Do a search on here for auto linkage.
As for doing the gearbox, seven people 'in the know' said it was impossible to do it by my self on my driveway. So I did it! It isn't too difficult. You do need about three feet worth of extensions on a ratchet to get to the top bolts. 
Be very mindful that the gearbox and transfer box are VERY HEAVY and awkward to handle. Care is also needed when fitting the torque converter, if it isn't seated in the gearbox oil pump drive properly it will break it and you'll have no drive. Not something you want to be breaking. 
I'd say do it, it will save you a fortune. You guys are gonna be busier than a test bench in a plunger factory!
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